mani sha Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 https://es.pn/2QsKtrD Ridgepi and GalenSt 1 1 Link to comment
Mosher Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Adi BB, beetle, The Dark Horse and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Mosher Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Why was that a dead ball? BrantFUGH 1 Link to comment
speedheat Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) Hilarious @velu @Mosher @beetle @UrmiSinhaRay @Laaloo Edited November 8, 2018 by speedheat velu, beetle, Under_Score and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Mosher Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 This kid seems like an entertainer lol "Shiva is a spinner who is capable of bowling a bouncer because of his strong left shoulder. He has a couple of different actions - sometimes he doesn't lift his non-bowling arm. Sometimes he walks up to the crease like a zombie, but he's got good control over them. http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25213327/shiva-singh-360-degree-delivery-falls-foul-umpires beetle, Global.Baba, BrantFUGH and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mosher said: This kid seems like an entertainer lol "Shiva is a spinner who is capable of bowling a bouncer because of his strong left shoulder. He has a couple of different actions - sometimes he doesn't lift his non-bowling arm. Sometimes he walks up to the crease like a zombie, but he's got good control over them. http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25213327/shiva-singh-360-degree-delivery-falls-foul-umpires u19 wc winner BrantFUGH 1 Link to comment
beetle Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Shiva said he felt his action was perfectly fine and that the bowler - like batsmen, who are permitted to switch-hit - should be allowed an element of surprise. "I use different variations in one-dayers and T20s so I thought of doing the same because the Bengal batsmen were developing a partnership," Shiva said. "The umpires said dead ball, so I asked "why are you calling it a dead ball?" ----------------------------------------------------- weird bande ki baat mein dum hai ( weirdo has a point there) I support this rebel bowler . Under_Score, sarcastic, Mosher and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment
eternalhope Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I am not sure why it was called a dead ball. Seems perfectly legal delivery to me. sarcastic 1 Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 hour ago, eternalhope said: I am not sure why it was called a dead ball. Seems perfectly legal delivery to me. because umpire has right to call dead-ball if he feels the bowler has distracted the batsman. Its in the article of ICC IIRC. Umpire can contend that this spin-o-rama is distracting to the batsman and unnecessary for the bowler to do, to complete his delivery. nevada 1 Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 btw, this is not the first time a perfectly good delivery is called dead-ball due to distraction reason. IIRC, there was a match in the 90s when Waqar delivered a ball, then promptly fell over/tumbled over in the follow-through of his stride...dead ball was signalled. Link to comment
I6MTW Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: because umpire has right to call dead-ball if he feels the bowler has distracted the batsman. Its in the article of ICC IIRC. Umpire can contend that this spin-o-rama is distracting to the batsman and unnecessary for the bowler to do, to complete his delivery. Then is it not distracting for the bowler if the batsmen decides to switch hit or reverse sweep before the ball is delivered? What about those incidents? Same should go for both ways. It's biased towards the batsmen. beetle 1 Link to comment
WC2011INDIA Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I support this bowler. * the batsmen Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, I6MTW said: Then is it not distracting for the bowler if the batsmen decides to switch hit or reverse sweep before the ball is delivered? What about those incidents? Same should go for both ways. It's biased towards the batsmen. this argument came up before, the argument is, the change in stance is necessary to execute the shot of switch-hit. Players are allowed to do whatever is necessary to deliver/play the ball. The bowler's rotating 360 is not necessary to deliver the ball. Its the equivalent of how batsmen are not allowed to jump in their crease at point of delivery or wave their arms around at point of delivery, either. Link to comment
eternalhope Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 58 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: because umpire has right to call dead-ball if he feels the bowler has distracted the batsman. Its in the article of ICC IIRC. Umpire can contend that this spin-o-rama is distracting to the batsman and unnecessary for the bowler to do, to complete his delivery. U might be right, but isn't an extra pause in the delivery stride like what Ashwin does sometimes or the funny action of the SAfrican Adams more distracting. To argue the kids case, it is a continuous motion or say disguising it till the last moment as some pacers do. Link to comment
nikred Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 This kid seems like an entertainer lol "Shiva is a spinner who is capable of bowling a bouncer because of his strong left shoulder. He has a couple of different actions - sometimes he doesn't lift his non-bowling arm. Sometimes he walks up to the crease like a zombie, but he's got good control over them. http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25213327/shiva-singh-360-degree-delivery-falls-foul-umpiresWalk like a zombie....that would surely be an undead ball. Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk beetle, zen, Global.Baba and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, eternalhope said: U might be right, but isn't an extra pause in the delivery stride like what Ashwin does sometimes or the funny action of the SAfrican Adams more distracting. To argue the kids case, it is a continuous motion or say disguising it till the last moment as some pacers do. i think these largely fall under umpire's discretion, so its hard to argue a hard and solid line. This kid did the same in another match and did not get dead-ball called for it. Link to comment
eternalhope Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: i think these largely fall under umpire's discretion, so its hard to argue a hard and solid line. This kid did the same in another match and did not get dead-ball called for it. I agree till the ICC comes up with a rule for this, it will be umpires discretion. I like the idea though and hope the ICC gives its nod. Edited November 8, 2018 by eternalhope Link to comment
mani sha Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Muloghonto said: this argument came up before, the argument is, the change in stance is necessary to execute the shot of switch-hit. Players are allowed to do whatever is necessary to deliver/play the ball. The bowler's rotating 360 is not necessary to deliver the ball. Its the equivalent of how batsmen are not allowed to jump in their crease at point of delivery or wave their arms around at point of delivery, either. kedar jadhav might want to rotate 720 to deliver Link to comment
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