SK_IH Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 3 hours ago, kubrickian said: Vikram focking Rathore who used to shiver against Donald and co and used to look like a tailender against them. Are you kidding me ? Were you looking for any logic in this **** show ? Don't give two hoots about this circus. Link to comment
putrevus Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 I wanted Pravin Amre to be the batting coach but he was not even in short list.Rathour are you kidding me. sandsaims, anish2tweet and Soorma_Bhopali 2 1 Link to comment
The Realist Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, G_B_ said: Hmm does he have any proper coaching background? Who needs credentials when you have a cheerleader as head coach. Rathore's sole coaching experience is coach of Vizag Victors. That tells all you need to know of this nepotistic selection. nevada, sandsaims and adi B 1 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 MSK - the reason why vikram was choosen coz they needed freshness for next year T20 Wc..... Then shud have changed captain, till the time kohli is captain neither RCB is winning ipl nor Indian team is winning Wc Rathour coaching Exp- Worked with KXIP Has been a coach of Punjab Link to comment
putrevus Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: MSK - the reason why vikram was choosen coz they needed freshness for next year T20 Wc..... Then shud have changed captain, till the time kohli is captain neither RCB is winning ipl nor Indian team is winning Wc Rathour coaching Exp- Worked with KXIP Has been a coach of Punjab That is utter nonsense, Dhoni won T20 title before IPL and he never won t20 world cup again.Don't confuse yourself.Captaincy is not the problem Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 27 minutes ago, putrevus said: That is utter nonsense, Dhoni won T20 title before IPL and he never won t20 world cup again.Don't confuse yourself.Captaincy is not the problem Captaincy is the problem .....a big one He didnt build a good team for this Wc......m betting same wud happen in t20 Wc next year Some captains know how to win tournament some dont.....ganguly was another one who didnt knew how to win it. Why their must be something wrong it cant be always luck. Their were tournaments when were playing so well till final and yet choked in final Dhoni didnt win ipl tittle before t20 coz their was no IPL.....the timing cant be the logic...he did well in IPL to after that as captain. The guy 3 tittles......Rohit has 4....surely they are doing something right. Calmness is one of the biggest reason Kohli has gone nowere with his RCB.......same problem every year, baffling selection, lack of patience , players not given defined roles... In IPL u cant even give excuse that pool of talent isnt good....u have the money go buy the player and RCB has always spend on stars. Kohi also doesnt have the sense of which players are right for which format. Here are more example Look at indian t20 side..... Pandey plays ahead of iyer, rahul Rahul who has a gr8 record in t20 gets dropped Dhawan keeps playing despite poor record Jadeja keeps coming despite not being good in t20 IPL xample- he picked Aniket.C for his IPL team after seeing him nets when everyone who has seen him even ppl on ICF cud tell he has skill for longer format not shorter. Come another Wc it ll be proven again that as captain he doesnt knw how to win tournaments. Luckily for him we dont play tri series and multi tournament tournaments anymore or else he wud have given ganguly record of loosing final tough competition. In the end tournaments comes down to final and who keeps calm on the day , quality comes 2nd...coz if u cant keep calm how will u play at ur best. Ganguly n kohli both get nerveous on these stages and his own game also gets affects.....he has no technical issue. Pressure is a huge factor .....Whereas captain like rohit n dhoni have kept calm. Kohli in CT after 10 overs lost his calm n it started showing on team.....in Semi final this Wc his reaction to pant dismissal was poor.....doesnt send good vibe to dressing. When ur leader panics team will fall no matter what. As they say - the one who keeps calm wins. Calmness under pressure is a huge factor....another xample is pakistan who loose their calmness against India in Wc hence a zero result till date. Wasnt their side better then us in 90s....yet lost 3 times in 90s NZ team wasnt better then us still went final n drew it Pak was no even a half good as side as we are yet won CT from us . That Lazy sarfu keeps more calm then kohli ....i think he also has won few PSL. I said this Before 2019 WC we aint winning becoz of captaincy , ill say it today ...we wont win 2020 Wc again becoz of captaincy ......Under pressure Kohli the captain will crumble...... Give rohit captaincy at right time he ll win atleast one major tournament for sure diga, sandsaims, saik and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment
diga Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) RCB coaching staff is a joke...Nehra gets 7+ Cr for nothing to show.. Another Delhi import Mithun Manhas was a gritty batsman not known for his big hitting and in addition last season when they finished last, they had a batting consultant Vikram Solanki Edited August 23, 2019 by diga Link to comment
diga Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Rathore is just another Punjabi to accompany Kohli while doing his Bhangra adi B, anish2tweet, nevada and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment
Temp1234 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Looks like RCB coaches are the Delhi neighbours of Kohli & Anushka Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 5 hours ago, diga said: RCB coaching staff is a joke...Nehra gets 7+ Cr for nothing to show.. Another Delhi import Mithun Manhas was a gritty batsman not known for his big hitting and in addition last season when they finished last, they had a batting consultant Vikram Solanki Get any coaching staff..... still they ll suck more often then not Their coaching staff also had bharat arun doing well for India, gary kirsten also This year they did well in auctions to but its how u manage ur resources. They fetched dube...what did they do with him wasted him completely. Kulwant is being wasted in their ranks Link to comment
beetle Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 ‘Don’t see Jonty Rhodes fitting in,’ MSK Prasad reveals reason behind not selecting the South African as India fielding coach https://m.hindustantimes.com/cricket/don-t-see-jonty-rhodes-fitting-in-msk-prasad-reveals-reason-behind-not-selecting-the-south-african-as-india-fielding-coach/story-dSJe0UB0mnAcIyDafsivkL_amp.html “We are convinced with skill sets of Sridhar. He is one of the best fielding coaches in the world today,” he said. Prasad said Sridhar has transformed the Indian team into a “wonderful fielding unit”. “Unfortunately in the World Cup, may be he (Sridhar) would not have got the desired result as there were two three-keepers in the side (and) the combinations were like that. He has transformed this side into a wonderful fielding unit. So, there is no second thought with regard to Sridhar.” Sandeep99, Forever Indian, Jimmy Cliff and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Soorma_Bhopali Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 hours ago, beetle said: ‘Don’t see Jonty Rhodes fitting in,’ MSK Prasad reveals reason behind not selecting the South African as India fielding coach https://m.hindustantimes.com/cricket/don-t-see-jonty-rhodes-fitting-in-msk-prasad-reveals-reason-behind-not-selecting-the-south-african-as-india-fielding-coach/story-dSJe0UB0mnAcIyDafsivkL_amp.html “We are convinced with skill sets of Sridhar. He is one of the best fielding coaches in the world today,” he said. Prasad said Sridhar has transformed the Indian team into a “wonderful fielding unit”. “Unfortunately in the World Cup, may be he (Sridhar) would not have got the desired result as there were two three-keepers in the side (and) the combinations were like that. He has transformed this side into a wonderful fielding unit. So, there is no second thought with regard to Sridhar.” This is just bullshit!!! Disgraceful to reject Rhodes' candidature. sandsaims and beetle 2 Link to comment
sandsaims Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 The number of catches we have dropped in test matches under R.Sridhar has been nothing short of a disgrace. beetle 1 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I do not believe you have to be a successful int’l player to be a great coach. Look at the coaches of int’l teams - Trevor Baylis, Mark Ramprakash, Graeme Hick, Chandrika Hathrusinghe, Micky Arthur, Otis Gibson, Russell Domigo, Gary Stead - none had a sparkling Test career, yet are doing fine as int’l coaches. While Rathore has not much on his cv, Dravid had got him as the batting coach of the A team. That endorsement by Dravid alone is a good enough indicator. Bangar had been the batting coach since 2014 and it was time for him to move on. Could have looked at a Mike Hussey or Jonathan Trott as an option but not the worst decision IMO (nothing can beat Shastri getting reappointed). zaqw222222 and nevada 2 Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 18 hours ago, kubrickian said: Those were the glory days of Indian batting - Vikram Rathore, Devang Gandhi, Shivsunder Das, Sujith Somsunder etc. Legendary 90s opening batsmen. Many thanks to BCCI for bringing them all back as selectors, coaches. We're fcking grateful now GolGappe and adi B 2 Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Like I said, it's a circus. It will all culminate with the ultimate insult of losing blushes in 2023 world cup. Just enjoy the fall of Rat in the meanwhile. We can all cheer for India after 2023. Link to comment
putrevus Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 13 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Captaincy is the problem .....a big one He didnt build a good team for this Wc......m betting same wud happen in t20 Wc next year Some captains know how to win tournament some dont.....ganguly was another one who didnt knew how to win it. Why their must be something wrong it cant be always luck. Their were tournaments when were playing so well till final and yet choked in final Dhoni didnt win ipl tittle before t20 coz their was no IPL.....the timing cant be the logic...he did well in IPL to after that as captain. The guy 3 tittles......Rohit has 4....surely they are doing something right. Calmness is one of the biggest reason Kohli has gone nowere with his RCB.......same problem every year, baffling selection, lack of patience , players not given defined roles... In IPL u cant even give excuse that pool of talent isnt good....u have the money go buy the player and RCB has always spend on stars. Kohi also doesnt have the sense of which players are right for which format. Here are more example Look at indian t20 side..... Pandey plays ahead of iyer, rahul Rahul who has a gr8 record in t20 gets dropped Dhawan keeps playing despite poor record Jadeja keeps coming despite not being good in t20 IPL xample- he picked Aniket.C for his IPL team after seeing him nets when everyone who has seen him even ppl on ICF cud tell he has skill for longer format not shorter. Come another Wc it ll be proven again that as captain he doesnt knw how to win tournaments. Luckily for him we dont play tri series and multi tournament tournaments anymore or else he wud have given ganguly record of loosing final tough competition. In the end tournaments comes down to final and who keeps calm on the day , quality comes 2nd...coz if u cant keep calm how will u play at ur best. Ganguly n kohli both get nerveous on these stages and his own game also gets affects.....he has no technical issue. Pressure is a huge factor .....Whereas captain like rohit n dhoni have kept calm. Kohli in CT after 10 overs lost his calm n it started showing on team.....in Semi final this Wc his reaction to pant dismissal was poor.....doesnt send good vibe to dressing. When ur leader panics team will fall no matter what. As they say - the one who keeps calm wins. Calmness under pressure is a huge factor....another xample is pakistan who loose their calmness against India in Wc hence a zero result till date. Wasnt their side better then us in 90s....yet lost 3 times in 90s NZ team wasnt better then us still went final n drew it Pak was no even a half good as side as we are yet won CT from us . That Lazy sarfu keeps more calm then kohli ....i think he also has won few PSL. I said this Before 2019 WC we aint winning becoz of captaincy , ill say it today ...we wont win 2020 Wc again becoz of captaincy ......Under pressure Kohli the captain will crumble...... Give rohit captaincy at right time he ll win atleast one major tournament for sure Captaincy is not the problem , how T20 titles did Dhoni win after IPL was started , he was the main reason why India has only one T20 title.I would take Kohli over any other Indian captain in all formats. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 5 hours ago, putrevus said: Captaincy is not the problem , how T20 titles did Dhoni win after IPL was started , he was the main reason why India has only one T20 title.I would take Kohli over any other Indian captain in all formats. poor RCB owner have the same stand thats why they get wooden spoon every year and next year also they ll get one Apart from darren sammy who won more then one t20 title.....even dhoni didnt build t20 team well but atleast he has every world title in his kitty add cb series , IPLs and 2-3 asia cup so no one can deny that he didnt knew how to win tournaments. Captaincy alone cant win u title but poor captaincy alone it can impact ur chances big time. Roht dhoni dont win IPL every year ....no one can but they know how to win and keep calm in final ofcourse other factors will happen to . Kohli looses his kool and hence looses high pressure game, same problem was with ganguly, SA team for years...... Its simple if something is happening again n again something is wrong for sure...... No matter how much denial u live in captaincy is one of the biggest issues. Dhoni won CT 2013 which much more weeker team and kohli didnt win with better team in 2017 and 2019 Wc. Look at 2013 CT team......dhawan only played 5-7 odi, Rohit was new to opening, kohli was a damn good player but not great then, no.4 was then also a concern, raina dhoni out of form......bowling- no bumrah, bhuvi was only a new bowl bowler, no kulcha , umesh the leak machine..... Link to comment
Vijy Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 11:54 AM, sandeep said: The only way Vikram Rathore makes sense is another potential bakra to be sacrificed further down the line. He will never be a threat to either Shastri or to Virat. Pravin Amre would have helped our batting unit. But he has earned enough credibility to not be a pushover. Vikram has no choice but to be a yes-man. This is a political appointment. Rathour might also assist Rat-Bewda indirectly (without explicitly meaning to) by allowing the batting techniques and temperaments of the batsmen to regress; this will serve to make Rat look even better in comparison. On the other hand, I feel that someone like Amre could have addressed the technical issues effectively. Link to comment
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