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Match Thread : India vs Aus 1st ODI, Wankhade on 14th jan 2020


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Kohli is spot on he is allowed to experiment and this loss is not a big deal at all. Rahul and Iyer cannot be playing in the same team.Dhawan is proven odi player , will he be around 2023 world cup which will be played in India.

 

If Dhawan needs to go it should be for a player like Gill .

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13 minutes ago, Kothili said:

Indian commies have always been chamcha chewtiyas. What's new?

Come on, let's get serious, last time a commie (Bhogle)  said anything remotely critical or displeased a captain (MSD), he was stripped off his contract by BCCI. I doubt even Ganguly/Gambhir can touch Kohli right now, given ambiguity over administrative affairs

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Top three have been carrying this team for last 7 years.When they fail this team goes nowhere.When they score people talk nonsense that they are scoring easy runs.They are carrying this unbalanced team to semis and finals of ICC tournaments, one match they fail team is kicked out.

 

Did anyone stop Rahul or Pant to score 100s today.They had all the time in the world.

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22 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Every youngster takes time but why is everyone expecting youngsters to get chances in all formats to prove their worth.

Obviously you too know this but pretending not to. So here it goes - almost all youngsters need 1. Mental security 2. Clarity about their expected role, 3. Clear communication and 4.backing of the captain (and coach) to become successful at international level.

 

Under Kohli, none of that is happening as is clearly evident from the fact that not one young talent has established himself in his nearly 6 years as Test captain and 4 years as a LOI captain. Many on this forum saw this coming and have been talking about it for months if not years.  

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15 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Obviously you too know this but pretending not to. So here it goes - almost all youngsters need 1. Mental security 2. Clarity about their expected role, 3. Clear communication and 4.backing of the captain (and coach) to become successful at international level.

 

Under Kohli, none of that is happening as is clearly evident from the fact that not one young talent has established himself in his nearly 6 years as Test captain and 4 years as a LOI captain. Many on this forum saw this coming and have been talking about it for months if not years.  

I am not pretending anything. What is it called Player X stinking up in test cricket in five different continents and yet kept on getting chances over much improved youngster who when given a chance at biggest stage cricket plays a vital role in India winning that series.

 

That young player has not looked back and is averaging 60 in test cricket and still unable to crack the odi team because this player X keeps on getting chances.Kohli is to be blamed to giving too many chances to some player like X.

 

People like you keep giving excuses for player X.Kohli is the captain for both players.

 

Players need to take their chances.Captain is not their to baby them every step that too for player who has been playing international cricket since 2014.

 

As said many times you don't kick out a perfectly good player like Dhawan in odis to try a youngster.Youngster has to show some talent too in spot he is chosen.

 

It is not that greatness of Imran Khan that Waqar and Wasim came under him ,They made Imran look good not vice verse, what happened to Imran Khan when he was given Jalauddins and Tahir Naqqashs.

 

Sachin and Sehwag did not make room for Kohli, Kohli when given a chance took it and ran with it and became a vital cog  for Indian team over much senior player like Raina because he was talented .

 

 

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It's not about Pant, KL, Samson, Gill or any player. Kohli can't make up his mind abt his best LOI team for any significant length of time except for select few players he backs - Rohit, Bumrah, Pandya, Dhawan.

 

If not Pant, pick Samson or even KL as keeper - but tell them what batting role u expect and then blindly back them for 20 matches. Back them vocally, both in private and public...and mean what you say.

 

If Jaddu's going to be your main spinner/all rounder in both LOI formats, tell him and then play him constantly. A captain's belief can lift players to over-achieve.

 

Kohli decides one thing and starts having second thoughts soon after. If he believed Rayudu was his no. 4 and Jadhav  No. 6  in WC run up, he should have just played them till the end. 

 

Most players need reassurance, consistent position & role to succeed. 

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11 for the next game (not too many options in the squad unless want to go back to Jadhav) 

 

Rohit/Dhawan/KL ( :yawn2: )

Pant

Kohli (can bat at 4 as well) 

Iyer

Pandey

Jadeja/Dube (someone who can bat and bowl)

Kuldeep

Shami

Chahal 

Saini

Bumrah 

 

at least the bowling looks good 

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