All eyes on King Kohli in the 2nd innings

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

 

Not blaming him for the loss, it is a team sport of course. But just the thought that his best never converts into a triumph, gives that undercurrent of Panauti that he is. Similar was the case in IPL 2016, God like tournament just to end up on the wrong side in the final. Iski kismat mei nahi likha kuch jeetna

May be we need to wonder when guys like sachin or kohli performs why others dont step up.  

Same case is in test kohli has made runs in most overseas series if only others like rahane n pujara had been more consistent result cud have been better. When pujara,mayank, pant, rahane , kohli all scored in aus team won. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 minutes ago, Gollum said:

If Kohli is serious about revival in fortunes he must give up captaincy in the shorter formats. Too much of a burden, and when one's mind is cluttered with nonsense (mainly TM politics but also power games/endorsements) difficult to perform at max level. 

Yup he looks exhausted ...all these error do suggest he is not in best of his mindset. Loosing concentration , going hard at 5th 6th stump line which he deducted in last few yeaRs. This will get worse only if he goes through one more Wc defeat

[SK_IH]

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

May be we need to wonder when guys like sachin or kohli performs why others dont step up.  

Same case is in test kohli has made runs in most overseas series if only others like rahane n pujara had been more consistent result cud have been better. When pujara,mayank, pant, rahane , kohli all scored in aus team won. 

Actually even Virat himself could have stepped up when it mattered in last few big tours overseas and Ind would have won. However, we all know what happened.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, SK_IH said:

Actually even Virat himself could have stepped up when it mattered in last few big tours overseas and Ind would have won. However, we all know what happened.

ill give him a pass since he has captaincy burden and  no player will score with extreme consistency in every overseas cycle 

[Norman]

10 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

Actually even Virat himself could have stepped up when it mattered in last few big tours overseas and Ind would have won. However, we all know what happened.

Unfair to expect him to do all the donkey work alone. He has done all he could have in SAF and Eng, but the rest were pathetic. His captaincy is a different story though. 

[SK_IH]

8 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

ill give him a pass since he has captaincy burden and  no player will score with extreme consistency in every overseas cycle 

Somehow burden mostly manifests itself in big matches otherwise he is the King. 

[vaul]

It is age of the Kohli causing problem. Kohli is 31+ add 2-3 years as age fudging is common in India.Recently Manjot Kalra of u19 was found guilty of age fraud.From baldness pattern and amount of grey hairs in his beard,it appears Kohli is older.His decline has started.He will be liability in t20 wc.

[SK_IH]

5 minutes ago, Norman said:

Unfair to expect him to do all the donkey work alone. He has done all he could have in SAF and Eng, but the rest were pathetic. His captaincy is a different story though. 

I expected atleast one match winning innings out of the umpteenth chances he got in last 4-5 years. So, I have no sympathy for him as a batsman.

[nevada]

Cometh the hour, choketh the man!

[nevada]

6 minutes ago, vaul said:

It is age of the Kohli causing problem. Kohli is 31+ add 2-3 years as age fudging is common in India.Recently Manjot Kalra of u19 was found guilty of age fraud.From baldness pattern and amount of grey hairs in his beard,it appears Kohli is older.His decline has started.He will be liability in t20 wc.

He is still very fit though it is possible that he is actually 33-34. His poor returns could be due to  playing non stop out of fear that his captaincy will be under threat, as seen in his about turn regarding skipping the WI series after the WC. 

[Deleted_User_1]

Yeah all eyes are on Chokohli, on his blooming auss, since the batting has choked:

 

 

There is still another test. How red and swollen is it gonna get?

[vaul]

25 minutes ago, nevada said:

He is still very fit though it is possible that he is actually 33-34. His poor returns could be due to  playing non stop out of fear that his captaincy will be under threat, as seen in his about turn regarding skipping the WI series after the WC. 

Reflexes gets slower with age not just for cricketers but it is case in all sports.Here physical fitness has no role.He is showing the signs of slower reflexes lately - poor timing,getting bowled and edging ball more often.

Edited February 23, 2020 by vaul

[MechEng]

21 minutes ago, vaul said:

Reflexes gets slower with age not just for cricketers but it is case in all sports.Here physical fitness has no role.He is showing the signs of slower reflexes lately - poor timing,getting bowled and edging ball more often.

And that is where technique comes into play once you start to lose your physical gifts. Same happened with Sehwag and Viv Richards who relied a lot on their hand eye coordination.

 

Dravid and Tendulkar are unique cases because their techniques were so orthodox text book. Tendulkar vs Steyn at his prime in 2010/11 and Dravid vs scary English attack of 2011 are examples where they did not thrash the bowlers but used their old school batting approach to negate the attacks.

[Nikola]

53 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

I expected atleast one match winning innings out of the umpteenth chances he got in last 4-5 years. So, I have no sympathy for him as a batsman.

true if smith alone can draw series in eng with similar or even worse batting around him compared to india then why can't kohli who is technically way better than him?

[Gollum]

Meanwhile Kohli's eyes

 

[zen]

I understand that it can be difficult to be consistent in every series, but when a batsman is playing well, he should try to get a huge series .... Even Pujara, who is by and large considered a HTB, stepped up his game in Aus big time 

 

Traditionally, Ind have had batsmen (apart from maybe Gavaskar and Sehwag) who get those 1-2 scores in 80-110 range in a series, thinking that they their job is done after scoring a high 50 or a just 100 .... As Sehwag in Pak and SL, Gavaskar in WI, and Pujara as discussed, showed that you have to make it count with a big one in an away series .... At home, someone else like a Saha, Ashwin, etc., can chip in. "Away", even though you are 11 on paper, you are more like 5-6 because of conditions as fringe players can get sidelined (vs 10-11 of the home team), therefore the game can become about the key/in form players' performances 

 

PS Being a complete bowler or a batsman is hogwash if you are as effective as an "incomplete" player. Also one of the reasons that, in my ATG Test 11, I am hesitant to include Ind (and Pak) players, apart from Gavaskar

Edited February 23, 2020 by zen

[Param Mastishk Pheeka]

[SRT100]

You guys are being rude to Kohli.

 

You watch how well he does in a bilateral ODI series against Sri Lanka and Bangladesh in India to over inflate his average.

[nevada]

We can compete against anyone in world: India skipper Virat Kohli confident ahead of Test series vs NZ;

 

"We have prepared in a manner where our fitness levels and concentration levels are such that we can compete against anyone in the world," Kohli said. "That's the kind of confidence we will carry into this series.";

 

* off Kohli! Now beg Dada for a hastily arranged home series against Zimbabwe and play every single match with full strength team to complete a whitewash.

[Vilander]

9 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Yup he looks exhausted ...all these error do suggest he is not in best of his mindset. Loosing concentration , going hard at 5th 6th stump line which he deducted in last few yeaRs. This will get worse only if he goes through one more Wc defeat

he looks mentally shot. such a pathetic way to loose a wicket to a slow bouncer( not a slower one but slow because the 'fast' bowler cant bowl any faster type of slow bouncer) in fifth off stump line and nearly over his head.