Gambhir, Nehra slam Kohli's captaincy after India's series defeat

[Gollum]

‘Can’t understand that kind of captaincy’, Gautam Gambhir not happy with Virat Kohli’s handling of Jasprit Bumrah

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“I can’t understand the captaincy to be honest. We kept talking about how important is to take wickets upfront if we have to stop this kind of batting line-up and then you make your premier bowler bowl two overs. Normally, in a One Day game probably there are three spells of 4-3-3 overs. Or probably the maximum is four overs,” Gambhir said on ESPNCricinfo’s post-match show.

“But if you stop your premier fast bowler just by bowling two overs upfront with the news, I can’t understand that kind of captaincy. I probably can’t even explain that captaincy. It is not T20 cricket. I probably can’t understand the reason to be honest because that was poor captaincy.”

 

Ashish Nehra criticises ‘impulsive captain’ Virat Kohli’s hasty decisions on bowling changes in Australia ODIs

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“In today’s game, Virat Kohli gave two overs to Mohammed Shami and then brought Navdeep Saini. He wanted Shami to bowl from the other end, that I understand, but then, why would he use Jasprit Bumrah for only two overs with the new ball?

I agree Virat Kohli is making frequent changes in bowling. He only had five bowling options. India used Mayank Agarwal and Hardik Pandya - it was a decision made on the ground. If things were going in India’s way, you would not have seen these two getting an over,” Nehra said on Cricbuzz.

"Virat Kohli is being hasty in his decisions. In the previous game (first ODI) as well, after Kohli was dropped, it seemed like he is in a hurry. Kohli has chased 350 several times in his career, it is not a big deal for him. But it seemed like he was chasing 475, not 375,” Nehra added.

“I believe, Kohli is an impulsive captain. He is making too many changes in his bowling. And this is an area that he needs to take care of."

 

[SK_IH]

Virat seems to be in IPL captaincy mode with these 2 overs spell per bowler. No other reason seems plausible.

[Lone Wolf]

Gambhir is spot on yet again...  But lord Nehra wants lolli to play Tuk Tuk knocks..  Btw Dude is already batting at run a ball when asking rate keeps climbing.  How more slow can he be?  Rest I agree with him 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Captaincy blunders aside this team has structural issues now, this is what happens when u have no vision for longest time. 

[putrevus]

Gambhir is trying find straws here, how many overs did Bumrah bowl in first odi , 4 overs on trot. Did Bumrah get any wickets there? Only this moron can equate two batsmen who have scored 43 100s and 11 100s as same. When you have just five bowlers out of which two are spinners, a captain is always juggling.If Bumrah bowls five overs upfront then there is no option of bringing him back in the middle overs.

 

Bumrah is not Bhuvi who is effective only with new ball, he is ace so any captain would like to have his overs in the bank. Bumrah cannot bowl more than 4 overs in his opening spell as he is needed for another two spells.

 

Even in world cup semis he bowled 4 overs

Bumrah since world cup has bowled  4 overs in every match in his opening spell except last match. Instead of finding why Bumrah is ineffective these two bozos are  diverting the blame.

Edited November 30, 2020 by putrevus

[ShoonyaSifar]

LOL Gambhir and Nehra are bozos for the Kohli PR gang. Why, because they no longer sugercoat things and call out the blunders!

 

Good to see some pundits talking publicly about poor leadership. Won't be long before others join in as well. Through paid PR, you can manage things only upto a certain extent especially when there are no real achievements to speak of (unlike Dhoni who had the T20 WC, WC and CT wins under him before losing his way).

[GeeGaw]

2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

But lord Nehra wants lolli to play Tuk Tuk knocks..

 

Of course he does, it's the true India way.

[putrevus]

How many worldcups, t20s and CTs did Dhoni captain again? 

[Tridibans_16]

3 hours ago, putrevus said:

Gambhir is trying find straws here, how many overs did Bumrah bowl in first odi , 4 overs on trot. Did Bumrah get any wickets there? Only this moron can equate two batsmen who have scored 43 100s and 11 100s as same. When you have just five bowlers out of which two are spinners, a captain is always juggling.If Bumrah bowls five overs upfront then there is no option of bringing him back in the middle overs.

 

Bumrah is not Bhuvi who is effective only with new ball, he is ace so any captain would like to have his overs in the bank. Bumrah cannot bowl more than 4 overs in his opening spell as he is needed for another two spells.

 

Even in world cup semis he bowled 4 overs

Bumrah since world cup has bowled  4 overs in every match in his opening spell except last match. Instead of finding why Bumrah is ineffective these two bozos are  diverting the blame.

I dont know why are you on a full denial and defending mode last two days? Defending the clueless captaincy, piss poor bowling and everything related to our team structure.

 

I really admire your posts on ICF since long back. But I really don't know how one can defend the indefensible.

 

@ShoonyaSifarAgree with you 100%. This is really getting ridiculous now.

 

You cannot seriously defend 5 consecutive ODI losses. Infact, we are yet to win a ICC ODI trophy since 2013 CT.

 

This present ODI team is done. @Ankit_sharma03 there are structural issues now. Moreover, there are presently two camps (Rohit aka anti Virat and Kohli).

 

Although I rate Kohli as my all time Indian player (even more than SRT), his captaincy blunders are costing us series after series. 

 

How can any patriotic fan buy this bullsh!t? Lost 2015, 2019 ODI WC, Lost 2017 CT, Lost 2014, 2016 T20WC. 

 

I dare say, if we continue this set-up, we will lose WC2023 at home too. Maybe we can win a couple of Asia cups and bilaterals against SL/WI/BAN on our way....

[Tridibans_16]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

How many worldcups, t20s and CTs did Dhoni captain again? 

So because Dhoni lost all those after winning 3 ICC trophies, Kohli losing everything under the sun is justified? Even Asia cup 2018 was won by Rohit Sharma.

[putrevus]

4 hours ago, Tridibans_16 said:

So because Dhoni lost all those after winning 3 ICC trophies, Kohli losing everything under the sun is justified? Even Asia cup 2018 was won by Rohit Sharma.

How is Kohli losing everything under sun? He captained two tournaments and he reached finals and semis of those tournaments. Under his captaincy other than losing 1-2 In England , India has won Bilateral odi series everywhere, he has the top three winning percentage of any odi  captains who have captained 90 plus matches. He has excelled as a batsman scoring 21 100s in 91 matches. He has hit a lull in last 25 games still he has scored second most odi 100s as a captain.

 

 

 

If this  is losing everything under sun I would want this guy as my captain everyday. Don't get confused with IPL , IPL is not international cricket.

Edited November 30, 2020 by putrevus

[Ankit_sharma03]

8 hours ago, Tridibans_16 said:

So because Dhoni lost all those after winning 3 ICC trophies, Kohli losing everything under the sun is justified? Even Asia cup 2018 was won by Rohit Sharma.

 

Dhoni won also not just wcs but cb series, asia cups ....kohli abhi tak konsa tournameny jeeta hai. 

[Gollum]

6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

Dhoni won also not just wcs but cb series, asia cups ....kohli abhi tak konsa tournameny jeeta hai. 

2007 WT20

2008 CB series (only time we have got the better of first choice Aus in Aus)

2010 Asia Cup (when SL, Pak were strong and we won it after 15 years beating 2x defending champs in their backyard)

2011 WC

2013 CT

 

and several other tri-series

 

Till then we were winning something of significance almost every year. 2014 WT20 final started a jinx but before that we were such a good tournament team. Sure we were thrashed in 2009 and 2010 WT20s but I blame our inability on foreign pitches with those teams. 2012 WT20 was bad luck, 2009 CT Pak deliberately lost to Aus. 

[ShoonyaSifar]

17 hours ago, putrevus said:

How many worldcups, t20s and CTs did Dhoni captain again? 

Won is first T20 WC, first WC, first tri series in Australia, first ODI series in NZ etc etc. He faded away as a captain after 2013 and got the deserving criticism but what kept him going as a captain was at keast his IPL leadership. 

 

Captain Shrimaan Doofus has NONE of these achievements but he and his PR gang expect captaincy without an exit date to be his divine right. 

[Lone Wolf]

I remember lolli captaining India in 2014 Asia Cup & we lost to Pakistan & crashing out of it.  Feeding Ashwin against afridi in last over.  Perennial choker lolli is

[Gollum]

5 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

I remember lolli captaining India in 2014 Asia Cup & we lost to Pakistan & crashing out of it.  Feeding Ashwin against afridi in last over.  Perennial choker lolli is

That match (and tourney) was lost cos of DK's pathetic keeping, Kohli didn't do anything wrong. Ashwin was the best bowler in that match going into final over (30/3 in 9) and we didn't have any other option. 

 

DK missed an easy stumping of Sanga when he was new to the crease, scored 100 and SL beat us. Against Pak stumping miss of some guy who then had a big partnership. DK also sucked with the bat, cost us 20-30 runs against Pak with his ghatiya batting. 

[Lone Wolf]

10 minutes ago, Gollum said:

That match (and tourney) was lost cos of DK's pathetic keeping, Kohli didn't do anything wrong. Ashwin was the best bowler in that match going into final over (30/3 in 9) and we didn't have any other option. 

 

DK missed an easy stumping of Sanga when he was new to the crease, scored 100 and SL beat us. Against Pak stumping miss of some guy who then had a big partnership. DK also sucked with the bat, cost us 20-30 runs against Pak with his ghatiya batting. 

Afridi was bashing spinners in that whole tourney & The field placing in that over against I guess Mohd. Talha sucked big time when he was clearly looking to take a single.  He has no brains when it comes to crunch situation.  Ashwin was brilliant throughout but kohli should've planned better the overs of other bowlers considering Afridi. 

Edited December 1, 2020 by Lone Wolf

[Rasgulla]

Never forget dumbhir

 

 

[RAZPOR]

ICF seems to have been infiltrated by Kohli PR team lately ,lots of point less defense of poor kaptaan tactics going on lately.

Edited December 1, 2020 by RAZPOR

[mishra]

21 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

LOL Gambhir and Nehra are bozos for the Kohli PR gang. Why, because they no longer sugercoat things and call out the blunders!

 

Good to see some pundits talking publicly about poor leadership. Won't be long before others join in as well. Through paid PR, you can manage things only upto a certain extent especially when there are no real achievements to speak of (unlike Dhoni who had the T20 WC, WC and CT wins under him before losing his way).

When he was at prime, He would announce his vacation and take time off simply because his position in team and post as skipper was secure. Unfortunately, prime is gone. As a sportsperson you should know that shelf life of Cricketer is just 10-12 years. You should be trying to win as many trophies and medals as you can during that phase.