Bundaberg Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 They are called whingeing poms for a reason here in Australia. They complain about anything and everything. nevada, putrevus, PunterLog and 4 others 1 3 3 Link to comment
GeeGaw Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 England have to prepare three day pitches since two of the five days will be called off due to their shite weather. adi B, nevada and raki05 3 Link to comment
vice Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I'm surprised England didn't complain about the first pitch? That was way more toss dependent. Atleast this one was spinning from day 1 nevada 1 Link to comment
neel roy Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, vice said: I'm surprised England didn't complain about the first pitch? That was way more toss dependent. Atleast this one was spinning from day 1 Why would they complain.. infact they were praising the curator in english media that this was the ideal Indian wicket.. to be fair in late n early 90s we did have similar pitches. Only azhar used to win most tosses and opponent teams didnt have Root. Except for Eden which was pace friendly most pitches in India was like this. The advantage India had during those days was the following 3 players could play spin in their sleep in prime. Azhar Sidhu Sachin And to lesser extent Kambli and More,Nayan Mongia then Kapil used to come and bash a few for declaration.. plus we had domestic giants like Ajay Sharma, Raman Lamba in reserves who were insane players of spin. Lamba n Sharma would have eaten Lyon Bess Leach with a bat in one hand n tandoori chicken in another. Also Wv Raman. Gone are those days. Skill Levels playing spin has come down in India players. A prime reason is because they dont play domestic anymore. I remember Sachin and Azhar rushing back to Ranji trophy to captain their sides just after defeating NZ in a home test.. think about this in todays context.. hell Ganguly and Sachin competed in the most exciting Ranji final ever in mid 2000s.. Edited February 16, 2021 by neel roy littlemaster1982, putrevus and Vickydev 2 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, neel roy said: Why would they complain.. infact they were praising the curator in english media that this was the ideal Indian wicket.. to be fair in late n early 90s we did have similar pitches. Only azhar used to win most tosses and opponent teams didnt have Root. Except for Eden which was pace friendly most pitches in India was like this. The advantage India had during those days was the following 3 players could play spin in their sleep in prime. Azhar Sidhu Sachin And to lesser extent Kambli and More,Nayan Mongia then Kapil used to come and bash a few for declaration.. plus we had domestic giants like Ajay Sharma, Raman Lamba in reserves who were insane players of spin. Lamba n Sharma would have eaten Lyon Bess Leach with a bat in one hand n tandoori chicken in another. Also Wv Raman. Gone are those days. Skill Levels playing spin has come down in India players. A prime reason is because they dont play domestic anymore. I remember Sachin and Azhar rushing back to Ranji trophy to captain their sides just after defeating NZ in a home test.. think about this in todays context.. hell Ganguly and Sachin competed in the most exciting Ranji final ever in mid 2000s.. Spot on.All Indian players have to play minimum of three Ranji matches every season. Link to comment
SK_IH Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Very impressed with Joe Root's demeanour this series. He has handled the umpiring blunders with maturity and acknowledged his team's shortcomings instead of berating the pitch. GoldenSun, Clarke, putrevus and 4 others 3 2 2 Link to comment
sage Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 hours ago, SK_IH said: Very impressed with Joe Root's demeanour this series. He has handled the umpiring blunders with maturity and acknowledged his team's shortcomings instead of berating the pitch. Yes, I don't think the England players have made any excuses Link to comment
Vk1 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) Joe Root isnt good at picking 11.. always tends to pick the wrong 11 especially in overseas.. why did he pick two fast bowlers on that Chennai wicket having Stokes in the 11 ? Edited February 16, 2021 by Vk1 Link to comment
nevada Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 6 hours ago, vice said: I'm surprised England didn't complain about the first pitch? That was way more toss dependent. Atleast this one was spinning from day 1 Yeah, they totally lucked out with that one. Not a peep about it from their experts. Real McCoy 1 Link to comment
raki05 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, sage said: Yes, I don't think the England players have made any excuses Pakistani are complaining more than English .. express bowling, Real McCoy, TheWall and 2 others 5 Link to comment
neel roy Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 hours ago, raki05 said: Pakistani are complaining more than English .. Yeah i think they were more happy that india lost than they won against saffers. raki05 1 Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Where was vaughn after their 1st test victory. it was an absolute road. 2nd test was more sporting than the first one albeit it was spin rather than pace that dominated proceedings. Harsha should have questioned him on that but harsha is such a bootlicker for him to do that. TheWall 1 Link to comment
LordPrabhzy Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 9:09 AM, putrevus said: Spot on.All Indian players have to play minimum of three Ranji matches every season. and how do you suggest they do that? When BCCI is prioritising silly bilaterals to make money rather than forcing test players to keep playing first class cricket in the year to hone their skills. We have got to realise that India is 'fairly' good in test cricket is because there is still some interest and BCCI is rich, if they weren't they would have dropped the idea of playing tests and/or giving importance to them. They have realised that in most cases India will lose abroad and win at home with the current set up so there is point changing status quo giving less attention to IPL. Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 minute ago, LordPrabhzy said: and how do you suggest they do that? When BCCI is prioritising silly bilaterals to make money rather than forcing test players to keep playing first class cricket in the year to hone their skills. We have got to realise that India is 'fairly' good in test cricket is because there is still some interest and BCCI is rich, if they weren't they would have dropped the idea of playing tests and/or giving importance to them. They have realised that in most cases India will lose abroad and win at home with the current set up so there is point changing status quo giving less attention to IPL. First of all bilaterals are not silly at all. They are a must to generate cash to run cricket. It cannot be all about ICC tournaments. They are trying to change the status quo about test cricket, that is why there are playing day night tests. There are very few players who play all formats so getting players to play two or three FC games per home season season should not be hard. Guys like Pujara always plays FC.But the problem is BCCI does not have set calendar for home season. That is limited to just England and Australia. Guys like Dravid have spoken about having set calendar every year too. Fringe players getting free ride to test cricket needs to stop. IPL to me is not an obstacle for FC in Indian cricket.It is a way out for many players to make living out of cricket who cannot make it to Indian team and that is always a good thing. Link to comment
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