rangeelaraja Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Lance Klusener I remember from the 99 WC was an infallible beast in the 99 WC, if not for Allan Donald's dear in the headlights running in the semis - he would won RSA the 99 WC. That kind of finishing and chasing was way ahead it's times. Klusener was striking at close to 200 to win seemingly impossible chases. Dhoni for a few years won impossible chases as well, many more than Klusener because of the sheer number of matches, but I always felt that Dhoni would play too slowly settling in, allow impossible chase situations to come up and then finish it off almost as if to troll the opponent, whereas Klusener would just go beserk from ball #1. Have modern day hitters reached another level ? velu, G_B_, raki05 and 2 others 1 3 1 Link to comment
Majestic Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Jos Buttler is that level too. Just forget this ODI series, it was disappointing for him but on overall level. Averages 40 at S/R of 120. Link to comment
rangeelaraja Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Majestic said: Jos Buttler is that level too. Just forget this ODI series, it was disappointing for him but on overall level. Averages 40 at S/R of 120. Hardik has that level of talent too. I believe he will get there. His strike rate is the about the same, could be a little more consistent. Under_Score 1 Link to comment
Majestic Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said: Hardik has that level of talent too. I believe he will get there. His strike rate is the about the same, could be a little more consistent. Yes. In his case, the problem till now has been Rohit, Dhawan and Kohli facing large chunk of deliveries and Pandya would come mostly as hitter for slog overs. If you give him more balls to face, he will be averaging 38-40 as well and still strike at 115. One thing that Buttler is better than Pandya is Buttler has that 360° hitting too which helps against quality pace. Pandya can be found out on certain occasions because of lack of that. Edited March 28, 2021 by Majestic raki05, Vk1 and nevada 3 Link to comment
rangeelaraja Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Majestic said: Yes. In his case, the problem till now has been Rohit, Dhawan and Kohli facing large chunk of deliveries and Pandya would come mostly as hitter for slog overs. If you give him more balls to face, he will be averaging 38-40 as well and still strike at 115. One thing that Buttler is better than Pandya is Buttler has that 360° hitting too which helps against quality pace. Pandya can be found out on certain occasions because of lack of that. True that. Pandya is our best 6 hitter against spinners. The way he destroyed Moin today with 3 sixes in 1 over - he has done it many times before. He should be a floater in our batting line up. Just bring him on, if the the spinner are bowling and we lose a wicket. he is capable of making a 15 ball 40 8/10 times against spinners. Under_Score 1 Link to comment
GeeGaw Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Would love to see Hardik come in earlier to drag his nuts across the faces of spinners. Other side has to bring back their pacers way too early when they’re still recovering from previous spell and don’t have that many overs left in the bank for death overs. daryl1985 1 Link to comment
Majestic Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said: True that. Pandya is our best 6 hitter against spinners. The way he destroyed Moin today with 3 sixes in 1 over - he has done it many times before. He should be a floater in our batting line up. Just bring him on, if the the spinner are bowling and we lose a wicket. he is capable of making a 15 ball 40 8/10 times against spinners. Yeah, if spinners are making life harder in middle overs, we may better send Pant and Pandya both ahead of KL. KL will not do bad either in the final 15 overs because he has the shots and power range. Link to comment
daryl1985 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 2 hours ago, GeeGaw said: Would love to see Hardik come in earlier to drag his nuts across the faces of spinners. Other side has to bring back their pacers way too early when they’re still recovering from previous spell and don’t have that many overs left in the bank for death overs. Always thought the same when Yusuf Pathan was in the team (Hardik obviously levels above him). Would be a good weapon, especially when India have started well Link to comment
G_B_ Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I remember in 99 wc 7 rpo was some sort of ungettable figure... Link to comment
Vk1 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 not just 99, Klusener won some unimaginable games either side of that world cup. He was a freak like ABD.. Cricspin and Indwin 2 Link to comment
Clarke Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 That was another universe, 200 odd being defended multiple times in the tournament. In that context Klusener was something else, not saying there's no one like him but its an apples to oranges contest given the difference in conditions. Vk1 1 Link to comment
nevada Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Current power hitters are merely products of the current environment. Big bats, 2 new balls, field restrictions, smaller boundaries, patta wickets - everything is in their favor. They are making full use of the conditions and not doing anything extra ordinary. Klusener was one of the few out of the box type of batsmen of his era, where conditions weren't loaded totally in his favor. With present conditions, he would be an untameable beast. Vk1, sorak, Suhaan and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
rangeelaraja Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 For the uninitiated..here is one the Zulu's best. Not seen anyone slog the hell out of Akram, Akhtar and Saqlain like this. Laaloo, Vk1 and Under_Score 2 1 Link to comment
Vk1 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Rishabh Pant does remind me of Zulu at times Link to comment
zen Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Some players are catching up to Klusener esp. with Eng deciding to adapt such game play, along with the influence of T20s Link to comment
Serpico Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 21 hours ago, rangeelaraja said: For the uninitiated..here is one the Zulu's best. Not seen anyone slog the hell out of Akram, Akhtar and Saqlain like this. It's amazing hitting, but literally every shot is towards leg side, yet they kept bowling into that arc? I don't get it. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) On 3/28/2021 at 1:15 AM, Majestic said: Yeah, if spinners are making life harder in middle overs, we may better send Pant and Pandya both ahead of KL. KL will not do bad either in the final 15 overs because he has the shots and power range. If Rohit Dhawan stay together till 25+ overs,it is better to send someone like him to take the game away from opposition,but Kohli and his ego won't allow that Pandya if gets to play more deliveries will be able to evolve more and will be even more devastating,he comes way down for his ability Edited March 30, 2021 by Suhaan nevada 1 Link to comment
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