We should play Umesh in every test match from here on

[Lone Wolf]

Guy is almost 34 now..  Surprising but a bit sad.  Always had the natural skill & built like a bull.   One of the important reasons for our home dominance in last 5 years. 

 

Guy deserves his spot ahead of likes of Ishant in coming NZ home series & then in SA tour.   It's about time now he gets some credit as well. 

[rkt.india]

At home, he is a must. Both him and Shami.

[tweaker]

It upto Umesh that he has not cemented his place in the playing 11 He is not consistent and can be exceptional one day and ordinary another day.

[R!TTER]

3 minutes ago, tweaker said:

He is not consistent and can be exceptional one day and ordinary another day.

He didn't play a single test in SA/Eng & possibly NZ before 2018 - on what basis are you claiming this? While Kohli & Dhoni played their favorites & picked that l*** d*** almost every time they had the chance!

[Lone Wolf]

2 minutes ago, tweaker said:

It upto Umesh that he has not cemented his place in the playing 11 He is not consistent and can be exceptional one day and ordinary another day.

I think he showed great signs in Australia before getting injured.  Could have been his series that one if not for that injury. 

Here in this game he constantly bowled tight & attacking lengths & extracted something outta dull pitch.  Remained economical as well. 

I'll take him anyday over Ishant.  His batting is decent as well lower down the order. In Fielding he has always been a good one to have. 

[Adamant]

Ishant shouldn't be dropped, he had some fitness issue, just needs to sort them and he"ll be back to his best, even at lords he did a pretty good job. 

[Suhaan]

No,he should be rotated

Apart from Bumrah all others blow hot and cold,long series each of them needs opportunity

When India started yesterday he was bowling his usual leg stump line,it looked terrible

[speedheat]

He can't bowl with Duke ball ha

Another zhandu ICF theory has been debunked.

[ShoonyaSifar]

First 25 tests, 65 wickets@39

Last 24 tests, 89 wickets@23.

 

Outstanding improvement from Umesh. Didn't think he had it in him to do well in England. 

[Lone Wolf]

Bumrah is an all format asset..  Actually won't mind if he doesn't plays against NZ at home. 

Umesh Shami Siraj & Prasidh should get home games. 

 

Here's hoping Prasidh gets a debut in next game. 

[express bowling]

Umesh should be rotated.

 

Bumrah is the only specialist fast bowler who is a must in all important matches.

 

Shardul is a must in tests outside Asia, for his batting cum bowling.

 

Shami, Siraj, Umesh and Prasidh should be rotated.

 

Ishant is done.

 

Umesh is almost 34 and won't be good for long.

 

We must develop new quicks by rotation too.

Edited September 7, 2021 by express bowling

[ShoonyaSifar]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

Umesh should be rotated.

 

Bumrah is the only specialist fast bowler who is a must in all important matches.

 

Shardul is a must in tests outside SENA, for his batting cum bowling.

 

Shami, Siraj, Umesh and Prasidh should be rotated.

 

Ishant is done.

 

Umesh is almost 34 and won't be good for long.

 

We must develop new quicks by rotation too.

Shardul, with his swing and seam, could easily play even in home tests, if needed as the 2nd seamer (though ideally Shami and Umesh will be the preferred ones). He can easily bowl 84-85 mph consistently, doesn't look 100% fit while bowling right now

[Samcric]

2 hours ago, express bowling said:

Umesh should be rotated.

 

Bumrah is the only specialist fast bowler who is a must in all important matches.

 

Shardul is a must in tests outside SENA, for his batting cum bowling.

 

Shami, Siraj, Umesh and Prasidh should be rotated.

 

Ishant is done.

 

Umesh is almost 34 and won't be good for long.

 

We must develop new quicks by rotation too.

 

Avesh Khan and Kartik Tyagi should also be in the mix.

 

Age-wise:

 

32+: Shami, Ishant, Umesh

26-27: Bumrah, Shami

Under-23: Avesh, Prasidh, Kartik

 

No.8: Shardul, Bhuvi (if fit), Chahar

           Future: Divyansh Joshi, 

 

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Wahi purani beemari, one match n jump to a theory. He has struggled for a considerable time overseas let him prove otherwise for a long time

England is not a great batting side, he still was leaking at high eco

Is he better then Bhuvi, Shami, Siraj......I wnt take him ahead of thakur for just bowling. Ishant n bhuvi are struggling with fitness doesnt mean they ll forever .................He aint gonna play ahead of all 

 

In India he is freaking good but outside wait let him do it for a long while , its just one game

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Shardul, with his swing and seam, could easily play even in home tests, if needed as the 2nd seamer (though ideally Shami and Umesh will be the preferred ones). He can easily bowl 84-85 mph consistently, doesn't look 100% fit while bowling right now

 

 

My choice for home tests 

 

5. Washington

6. Pant

7. Jaddu

8. Ashwin

9. Umesh / Axar

10. Shami / Siraj

11. Bumrah / Prasidh

 

 

Rotate the quicks and develop bench strength in the pace department.

 

This combo has 3 spinners, 3 pacers and batting till 8. 

 

Axar can come in as 4th spinner too.

Edited September 7, 2021 by express bowling

[rkt.india]

49 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Shardul, with his swing and seam, could easily play even in home tests, if needed as the 2nd seamer (though ideally Shami and Umesh will be the preferred ones). He can easily bowl 84-85 mph consistently, doesn't look 100% fit while bowling right now

Ball doesn't seam and swing in India. Need to utilise reverse. For that, pace is required.

[rkt.india]

Just now, express bowling said:

 

 

My choice for home tests 

 

5. Washington

6. Pant

7. Jaddu

8. Ashwin

9. Shami

10. Umesh / Siraj

11. Bumrah / Prasidh

 

 

Rotate the quicks and develop bench strength in the pace department.

 

This combo has 3 spinners, 3 pacers and batting till 8.

Don't need 3 pacers in India.

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, express bowling said:

5. Washington

6. Pant

7. Jaddu

8. Ashwin

9. Shami

10. Umesh / Siraj

11. Bumrah / Prasidh

 

Umesh Shami are enough for home

Last position shud go to Sundar or any batsman or Axar in case of aussie team (have every thing for Smith n chota smith)

 

Bumrah shud be rested from home games till umesh n shami are their ...he is playing everything. He shud be rested where we can do without him 

[goose]

4 hours ago, Adamant said:

Ishant shouldn't be dropped, he had some fitness issue, just needs to sort them and he"ll be back to his best, even at lords he did a pretty good job. 

i note you go by the name Adamant. you are sick. see a doctor. report back

[ShoonyaSifar]

25 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Ball doesn't seam and swing in India. Need to utilise reverse. For that, pace is required.

 

In the last 3-4 years, Umesh and Shami have picked dozens of wickets with the new ball (within the first 15 overs) with proper swing and seam. Go and check the available videos if you didn't watch the matches.