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I don't think Kohli would be happy with whats going on behind the scenes. I don't see Kohli being in charge of any of the formats within a year, his control over the dressing room, his form as batsman and his support in the main office is all but gone. 

 

End isn't too far for him. 

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Kohli will probably have a rebound in his batting form like most batsmen do. It will be one of those cliched "proving haters wrong" in a comeback. It happens. He's past his prime bar a dead cat bounce which has high odds. 

 

That said, I doubt that they'll touch Kohli's captaincy in ODIs and Tests until after 2023 world cup. 

 

Would have loved to see Rohit get the reigns for a few years before there is a clear leader in the younger lot. 

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As much as we dislike him and for solid reasons,  if humiliating him, even going to the extreme case of dropping him could result in getting in him returning with vengeance and bringing on his best batting -  i am all up for it.

 

When he was in that beastly batting form - he was in a league of his own.  But if he is way past that prime, then we should consider dropping him for good if there are more deserving players in their early to mid 20s.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Something said:

Kohli will probably have a rebound in his batting form like most batsmen do. It will be one of those cliched "proving haters wrong" in a comeback. It happens. He's past his prime bar a dead cat bounce which has high odds. 

 

That said, I doubt that they'll touch Kohli's captaincy in ODIs and Tests until after 2023 world cup. 

 

Would have loved to see Rohit get the reigns for a few years before there is a clear leader in the younger lot. 

 

 

I don't think so. A world cup happens once in 4 years. A world cup matters a zillion times more than Rat's captaincy ambitions.

 

If they have made up their mind to find the best combination for the WC and start working on it - changing the captain would also happen.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Something said:

Kohli will probably have a rebound in his batting form like most batsmen do. It will be one of those cliched "proving haters wrong" in a comeback. It happens. He's past his prime bar a dead cat bounce which has high odds. 

Of course. Long home season ahead.

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1 hour ago, Something said:

Kohli will probably have a rebound in his batting form like most batsmen do. It will be one of those cliched "proving haters wrong" in a comeback. It happens. He's past his prime bar a dead cat bounce which has high odds. 

 

That said, I doubt that they'll touch Kohli's captaincy in ODIs and Tests until after 2023 world cup. 

 

Would have loved to see Rohit get the reigns for a few years before there is a clear leader in the younger lot. 

 

Kohli will be 33 next month, Most batsmen do not regain form at all after 33.

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What did we expect him to say on an appointment that’s presently not made official, and in fact exists primarily on ‘reportedly’  ‘he said, they said’ kind of news stories.  
 

The linked article shows he was asked his opinion on a tentative / possible appointment.  That’s the Press doing it’s job but where does it leave Kohli?
 

Had Kohli welcomed it, people would have gone after him for usurping BCCI’s authority.  And short circuiting the official process. 
 

Some would have accused himself of being less than gracious to Shastri. 

 

IMO he took one of the few reasonable options open to someone in that position.  


We fans rightly expect excellence from our players but that isn’t a reason to criticise someone randomly just because you don’t like them. 

 

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4 minutes ago, NameGoesHere said:

What did we expect him to say on an appointment that’s presently not made official, and in fact exists primarily on ‘reportedly’  ‘he said, they said’ kind of news stories.  
 

The linked article shows he was asked his opinion on a tentative / possible appointment.  That’s the Press doing it’s job but where does it leave Kohli?
 

Had Kohli welcomed it, people would have gone after him for usurping BCCI’s authority.  And short circuiting the official process. 
 

Some would have accused himself of being less than gracious to Shastri. 

 

IMO he took one of the few reasonable options open to someone in that position.  


We fans rightly expect excellence from our players but that isn’t a reason to criticise someone randomly just because you don’t like them. 

 

 

 

You are just very keen to give him benefit of the doubt.

 

He got Kumble fired and Shastri re-instated.  Just remember that.

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48 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

 

You are just very keen to give him benefit of the doubt.

 

He got Kumble fired and Shastri re-instated.  Just remember that.

Did you even read what Kohli said? He said no idea what's happening on that front. No detailed discussion with anyone yet. If a coach was picked, captain would have been included in the discussion by BCCI.

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7 hours ago, Something said:

Kohli will probably have a rebound in his batting form like most batsmen do. It will be one of those cliched "proving haters wrong" in a comeback. It happens. He's past his prime bar a dead cat bounce which has high odds. 

 

That said, I doubt that they'll touch Kohli's captaincy in ODIs and Tests until after 2023 world cup. 

 

Would have loved to see Rohit get the reigns for a few years before there is a clear leader in the younger lot. 

They may not directly remove him but can do things that can make him resign in frustration. I think they have targeted him and want him out. Expect more leaks to the media, disagreements over selection, communication gaps, refusal of requests etc. Kohli is probably fed up with captaincy already, but he knows he can't quit now without much runs to his name. He is in desperate need of a few big scores so that he can quit captaincy on a high. Interesting cat and mouse game this, more interesting than the dull, safe cricket we play!

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40 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Did you even read what Kohli said? He said no idea what's happening on that front. No detailed discussion with anyone yet. If a coach was picked, captain would have been included in the discussion by BCCI.


I usually ignore posts like yours but tempted to respond to this. 
 

He said no idea and no detailed discussions.

 

I am assuming you have the cognitive ability to understand that having “ no idea “ , and

“ no detailed discussions “  is two totally different things. 
 

He clearly knows that discussions on the finalization of the coach are happening behind his back and he just expects that the buck will should stop at him even in coach selection matters. 
 

He could do that with firing Kumble when he was in the form of his life. But with ZERO ICC trophies to show in so many years and his own form such that he is probably not deserving of a  place - it’s not going to fly. 

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1 hour ago, rangeelaraja said:


I usually ignore posts like yours but tempted to respond to this. 
 

He said no idea and no detailed discussions.

 

I am assuming you have the cognitive ability to understand that having “ no idea “ , and

“ no detailed discussions “  is two totally different things. 
 

He clearly knows that discussions on the finalization of the coach are happening behind his back and he just expects that the buck will should stop at him even in coach selection matters. 
 

He could do that with firing Kumble when he was in the form of his life. But with ZERO ICC trophies to show in so many years and his own form such that he is probably not deserving of a  place - it’s not going to fly. 

He didn't say no idea. You are posting incomplete sentence. He said no idea what's happening on that front. If he doesn't know anything, why would he say anything else based on rumours.

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11 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

If he was excited ...he would have said something positive. Not a positive word / or excitement on prospects of Dravid being coach.  All about himself an his opinion

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/virat-kohli-rahul-dravid-next-india-head-coach-unaware-talks-1865586-2021-10-16

 

Dont do this. 

 

He is a lot of things but he knows when to toe BCCI line. Am sure thats that is how he was told to answer.  Look at the report, first it was Dravid is coach, then it was he was not given a choice but to become coach, now its under discussion. What the hell is Virat supposed to say ? Dont bash him for the sake of bashing.

 

 

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41 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

 

Dont do this. 

 

He is a lot of things but he knows when to toe BCCI line. Am sure thats that is how he was told to answer.  Look at the report, first it was Dravid is coach, then it was he was not given a choice but to become coach, now its under discussion. What the hell is Virat supposed to say ? Dont bash him for the sake of bashing.

 

 

 

 

Don't be naive. 

 

Did you hear a single word in the media about Kumble from Virat ? 

 

All the news came from leaks about how Virat insisted to the BCCI that Kumble be sacked , and sacked he was.

 

I have seen enough of this tyrant to know him.

 

 

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25 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

Don't be naive. 

 

Did you hear a single word in the media about Kumble from Virat ? 

 

All the news came from leaks about how Virat insisted to the BCCI that Kumble be sacked , and sacked he was.

 

I have seen enough of this tyrant to know him.

I have followed Indian cricket long enough to see every beloved captain eventually being termed tyrant. Ganguly was absolutely hated by fans during his last year, Dravid was smart enough to quit after WC debacle but whispers had started even before it. Dont have to talk about hate for Dhoni , Virat is there now and if you think it will change for next captain then you need to readup on Indian cricket. 

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