G_B_ Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 If i was Kane I would forever be in the debt of Kohli for making me win something. Babar Azam another unlucky fellow can thank Kohli as well. AuxiliA, bowl_out and Chakdephatte 1 2
New guy Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 Willaimson has already achieved more than any other kiwi captain in the past Vijy 1
sarcastic Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) May be he achieved more than any NZ captain in the past but he certainly underachieved in leading his sides to a final victory. WC 2019 F, T20 WC 2021 F to name few. WTC final 2021 is won by him only because of the bigger Panauti Kohli. It is like a negative value got dwarfed by a bigger negative value. Edited November 14, 2021 by sarcastic Lord 1
G_B_ Posted November 14, 2021 Author Posted November 14, 2021 Some players just unlucky....the cosmos is against them Williamson is leading probably the finest batch of nz to date.
bowl_out Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 Haha. I was saying the same thing. KW lost to Eng in a 50 over final KW lost to Aus in a 20 over final KW played against a bigger loser in the WTC final and won. raki05 1
Insidious Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 Kohli is manhoosiyat ka debta. He has done something sinful and hence, has been cursed for life. G_B_ 1
kohli Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, sarcastic said: May be he achieved more than any NZ captain in the past but he certainly underachieved in leading his sides to a final victory. WC 2015 F, WC 2019 F, T20 WC 2021 F to name few. WTC final 2021 is won by him only because of the bigger Panauti Kohli. It is like a negative value got dwarfed by a bigger negative value. He was not a captain in 2015 wc
sarcastic Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, kohli said: He was not a captain in 2015 wc Oh... Right. It was McCullum.
vvvslaxman Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 Atleast one loss cannot be pinned against him. World cup final which was awarded based on boundaries. vijaydude 1
New guy Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) 3 world cup series, 1 win 1 tie, 1 loss. Better than most indian captains and way better than kohli. Only some aussie captains can claim a better result So no idea why he is being looked down on. No other indian captain apart from dhoni has done better. No other captain from any country apart from Australia has done better Edited November 14, 2021 by New guy Majestic 1
New guy Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, sarcastic said: May be he achieved more than any NZ captain in the past but he certainly underachieved in leading his sides to a final victory. WC 2019 F, T20 WC 2021 F to name few. WTC final 2021 is won by him only because of the bigger Panauti Kohli. It is like a negative value got dwarfed by a bigger negative value. This doesn't make sense. No other captains from any coubtry has done better. Only some aussie captains or dhoni has done better. All other captain from every country has won 1 trophy max, whether it's imran or kapil or morgan. So has Williamson So no, he didn't just achieve more than other NZ captains, he achieved more than 99% captains of every team and on par with legends like kapil, imran, etc Edited November 14, 2021 by New guy GoldenSun and vijaydude 1 1
Adamant Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, New guy said: 3 world cup series, 1 win 1 tie, 1 loss. AuxiliA 1
New guy Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Adamant said: Obviously you do, as you always seem to correct the record
vvvslaxman Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 KW took SRH to final lol that in itself is a big thing. nevada 1
sarcastic Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 27 minutes ago, New guy said: This doesn't make sense. No other captains from any coubtry has done better. Only some aussie captains or dhoni has done better. All other captain from every country has won 1 trophy max, whether it's imran or kapil or morgan. So has Williamson So no, he didn't just achieve more than other NZ captains, he achieved more than 99% captains of every team and on par with legends like kapil, imran, etc My comment was a light-veined remark about Kohli> Having said this, coming to many finals is a great achievement but only if those appearances are converted to championships, will they be remembered. I remember how Ganguly used to be taunted to come all the way to finals in so many series only to loose in the finals. But for New Zealand, what KW achieved is a great improvement. From being "Semi final specialists", they have become "Final specialists". Hopefully, they will soon replicate the success of great teams such as WI of 70s/80s and Aus of noughties. New guy 1
Number Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 It is not just Kohli or NZ, we have poor record in ICC knockouts since 2015. Have only beaten Bangladesh in ICC Knockouts after 2014.
nevada Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 7 hours ago, sarcastic said: My comment was a light-veined remark about Kohli> Having said this, coming to many finals is a great achievement but only if those appearances are converted to championships, will they be remembered. I remember how Ganguly used to be taunted to come all the way to finals in so many series only to loose in the finals. But for New Zealand, what KW achieved is a great improvement. From being "Semi final specialists", they have become "Final specialists". Hopefully, they will soon replicate the success of great teams such as WI of 70s/80s and Aus of noughties. I was hoping NZ would change their habit of falling at the final hurdle but it turned out to be another one sided loss to their nemesis Australia. Maybe half the battle is lost or won before stepping on the field!
Majestic Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) What about Eoin Morgan then? Played CT 2017 at home and as one of favourites. Lost Tied 2019 WC. Thanks to boundary count, Lol. 2021 WT20,Semi Finalists, lost to the Kiwis. Was favourites. Edited November 15, 2021 by Majestic maniac 1
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