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1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

Well Nupur did eventually paid the price now.  Fact is Hindus are tolerant & don't have the influence like others.  History has a big part in that.    Jews have otherworldly lobbies in the west so they do whatever the hell they want.  Hindus are weak as a society.  Such people that still rely on sarkars to do their jobs.  

Chinese can daily abuse Islam coz they f***ing can.  These Desert cult followers will be slapped hard if they even utter a word. 

Indian foreign policy is about pleasing everyone & has western influence in their decision making.  We are not totally independent still.  It is what it is unfortunately & we are no France in any universe. 

That is what I have been shouting for years. Glad someone has same opinion as me. 

 

Hindus are f**king weak as a society.

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4 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

What is wrong? If it is not the truth correct it. It is an open forum .  Lord Ram is  called a misogynist, sexist and woman hater. Krishna a womanizer by liberals, there is no call of beheading. But Nabi ke saamne gustakhi , sar tan se juda? Aise kaisay hoga!

The factual veracity of the comments is *not* the issue. The intent is.

 

There are umpteen number of commentaries, scholarly works by Muslims and non Muslims which talk about the age of Ayesha. 

 

The issue here is in the way the comments were made. Specifically to denigrate the messenger of a faith. It is not the same as having a discussion. The spokeswoman said what she had to as a response to a provocation and it was meant to offend. And it did.

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17 minutes ago, HamHindustani said:

believers and non believers being the point of division. Guess where it comes from. A whole country was separated on this philosophy

 

They don't want to reform the holy book.

 

They say the holy book is for all times in response to saying it is was valid for that era when the religion was founded. 

 

The holy book speaks extremely ill of idol worship. Anyone of follows the holy book in the literal sense - indulges in violence, barbarism and displays worst forms of intolerance.

 

The Taliban apparently in literal translation means "students of Islam"  - guess what they did to the majestic Bamyan Buddha statues/idols in Afghanistan ?

 

They fired all sorts of ordnance at it and totally disfigured it. 

 

This is also typical of what the Mughal and Afghan invaders did - they destroyed ancient temples, destroyed their idols and built mosques on it.

 

How many times was Somnath Mandir attacked ?

 

This is all following instructions from the "holy book".  - why else would anyone attack a harmless place of worship like a temple ??

 

Which other religion advocates this sort of barbaric violence  and intolerance ? Can it even be called a religion  ?

 

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11 minutes ago, HamHindustani said:

believers and non believers being the point of division. Guess where it comes from. A whole country was separated on this philosophy

Thanks for the profound insight. Now I know why India was partitioned.

 

Any how, my comments re: division were more to do with the political discourse in the country. We've lost objectivity long ago.

Either our PM/ruling party can do no wrong or he is not worthy of any respect in any setting/fora whatsoever. 

Either he/the party is attacked non stop or he is defended for all his actions.

 

 

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A couple of things to learn from this episode-

 

1) everyone is expendable 

2) economics trumps ideology, no matter which side you belong to. 

3) energy independence is a key pillar of national security alongside foreign investments in your markets. Choose wisely and act accordingly.

 

one thing to note is the UAE’s silence on the current imbroglio. It’s also important to note that if the current oil imports trends become a permanent feature, you will see more backlash from the ME. At the end of the day, it all boils down to money.

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6 minutes ago, FischerTal said:

A couple of things to learn from this episode-

 

1) everyone is expendable 

2) economics trumps ideology, no matter which side you belong to. 

3) energy independence is a key pillar of national security alongside foreign investments in your markets. Choose wisely and act accordingly.

 

one thing to note is the UAE’s silence on the current imbroglio. It’s also important to note that if the current oil imports trends become a permanent feature, you will see more backlash from the ME. At the end of the day, it all boils down to money.

 

 

China also imports alot of oil from the Middle east.

 

Has the OIC uttered one single word against China's atrocities in Xinjiang against Uighurs ?  China has demolished 100's of Mosques in Xinjiang. It does not even make news anymore.

 

It is about comprehensive national power.  They seem to respect China a lot. 

 

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15 minutes ago, FischerTal said:

A couple of things to learn from this episode-

 

1) everyone is expendable 

2) economics trumps ideology, no matter which side you belong to. 

3) energy independence is a key pillar of national security alongside foreign investments in your markets. Choose wisely and act accordingly.

 

one thing to note is the UAE’s silence on the current imbroglio. It’s also important to note that if the current oil imports trends become a permanent feature, you will see more backlash from the ME. At the end of the day, it all boils down to money.

 

Beautifully put. In 5 years this scenario can totally change. Keep the growth going. Keep working on energy independence. 

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59 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

He is the elected representative of the nation. 

Would you be okay with our flag used as a doormat? The flag is not a country afterall.

 

Criticize him for all his policies, but finding glee in his defaced pictures from a foreign country is just not done.

He is fully responsible for this embarrassment and bringing a bad name to the country.

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28 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

 

China also imports alot of oil from the Middle east.

 

Has the OIC uttered one single word against China's atrocities in Xinjiang against Uighurs ?  China has demolished 100's of Mosques in Xinjiang. It does not even make news anymore.

 

It is about comprehensive national power.  They seem to respect China a lot. 

 

 

 

We are nowhere near the economic power China is. I doubt we will be in my lifetime atleast. Also China doesn’t have India’s demographics where internal security will be wrecked due to backlash from such events.

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31 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

 

Beautifully put. In 5 years this scenario can totally change. Keep the growth going. Keep working on energy independence. 

Japan, SoKo, France. Always look for partners who do not have keen interests and leverage in your domestic affairs. That is why I also pointed out UAE’s silence. The change in their general outlook towards religion is pertinent and quite admirable imo.

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31 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

 

China also imports alot of oil from the Middle east.

 

Has the OIC uttered one single word against China's atrocities in Xinjiang against Uighurs ?  China has demolished 100's of Mosques in Xinjiang. It does not even make news anymore.

 

It is about comprehensive national power.  They seem to respect China a lot. 

 

Not really a comparable.

 

China has carried out atrocities/genocide on its own Muslim populace. The Oil Arabs would never let that come in the way of business. Chinese spokesmen/women haven't been stupid enough to go on primetime TV to denigrate Islamic beliefs. 

 

The Oil Arabs have normalised relations with Israel which still openly discriminates against Palestinians who are Arab Muslims. Why would they care about Uighurs?

 

Uighurs (or Indian Muslims for that matter) aren't really on the hearts and minds of the oil Arabs. Islam and the prophet is.

 

 

 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

Not really a comparable.

 

China has carried out atrocities/genocide on its own Muslim populace. The Oil Arabs would never let that come in the way of business. Chinese spokesmen/women haven't been stupid enough to go on primetime TV to denigrate Islamic beliefs. 

 

The Oil Arabs have normalised relations with Israel which still openly discriminates against Palestinians who are Arab Muslims. Why would they care about Uighurs?

 

Uighurs (or Indian Muslims for that matter) aren't really on the hearts and minds of the oil Arabs. Islam and the prophet is.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So what did they do to France ?  A repeat offender in that regard. 

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