Nikhil_cric Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 During a Sky Sports segment yesterday, Morgan explained that England's LOI setup and squad selection focused on what type of players were needed for a tournament in a particular country and then they tried to get the best players for these roles. This seemed like common sense but then I realised our farcical selections for the 2019 World Cup in England when at one point we had 3 spinners and 3 wicketkeeper bats which was absolutely shambolic. So, considering the World T20 is in a SENA country, my squad of XV would have 6 batsmen, 1 wk bat, 1 AR, 5 pacers and 2 spinners. Considering this template, what would your XV be? coffee_rules 1 Link to comment
zen Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) Ind tends to pick players based on how they do in Indian conditions. Also if one keeps or bowls, it does not mean he is not good enough to play as a batsman in the 11 - Eng plays Buttler, Bairstow, Billings, etc. Anyways, my potential 15 at the moment per conditions and the criteria in the OP: 7 batsmen including WK: Gill/Samson, KL/Samson, Hooda, SKY, SDP (Hardik), DK, & Pant/Samson 1 AR: Sundar (if fit and firing as he can bowl in PP too) or V Iyer/Tewatia (for batting and to bowl an over or two here and there) or Jadeja (more like an ODI option) if batting well 5 pacers (may include trundlers): Bumrah, Moshin, Umran, Harshal, & D Chahar (if fit and firing) … Harshal & D Chahar can bat a bit too … One or two from Bhuvi, Shami, Umesh, Avesh, Arshdeep, Nattu, Prasidh, Thakur, etc. if D Chahar and Harshal are not bowling well 2 spinners: Yuzi & Kuldeep Edited July 8, 2022 by zen Swag and Vijy 2 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 It is impossible to predict who will click who will not click in the world T20. But they have to pick the inform players with right attitude and hope for the best. Stan AF and SRT100 1 1 Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 imo our batsmen are more suited for australian pitches than any other country as they cant play swing or spin,wickets will be flat and even Rohit will get some runs so keep him as the captain.Kohli absolutely has to go though,he cant bat anymore. BacktoCricaddict 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: imo our batsmen are more suited for australian pitches than any other country as they cant play swing or spin,wickets will be flat and even Rohit will get some runs so keep him as the captain.Kohli absolutely has to go though,he cant bat anymore, anywhere. correction cowboysfan, BacktoCricaddict and Frustrated 2 1 Link to comment
tweaker Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) The squad could be Rohit Rahul Hooda Surya Pant Pandya Jadeja Bhubaneshwar Bumrah, Chahal Shami Bishnoi Karthik Prasidh Iyer Edited July 11, 2022 by tweaker Chakdephatte and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) The pacers who may work in Australia ( tall, hit the deck pacers ) have not been tried in the preparatory games except Avesh. So, it would be difficult to include them now. Similarly, batters like Shreyas, with acute issues against bounce, have occupied slots in the preparatory matches. Anyway .... based on information we have till now. May change later. 1. Rohit ( as he is the captain ) 2. Pant 3. SKY 4. Rahul ( bats better at 4 in LOIs ) 5. Hooda 6. Hardik 7. Jadeja 8. Harshal 9. Bumrah 10. Avesh / Mohsin 11. Chahal 12. Kishan 13. Karthick 14. D.Chahar ( backup all-rounder ) 15. Mohsin / Avesh 16. Kuldeep .... Need atleast 2 hit-the deck pacers in the playing 11 for Australia ( and 3 in the squad ) who can bowl slower balls too. .... Must try Mohsin in the next few T20Is. .... Wrist spinners will be ideal for Australia .... 1 dashing opener is needed .... My team has 7 bowling options. .... There is batting till 8 and all can hit. .... D.Chahar comes in if any of the all-rounders Hardik, Jadeja or Harshal are injured Edited July 11, 2022 by express bowling SRT100, Vk1, prasen82 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, express bowling said: The pacers who may work in Australia ( tall, hit the deck pacers ) have not been tried in the preparatory games except Avesh. So, it would be difficult to include them now. Similarly, batters like Shreyas, with acute issues against bounce, have occupied slots in the preparatory matches. Anyway .... based on information we have till now. May change later. 1. Rohit ( as he is the captain ) 2. Pant 3. SKY 4. Rahul ( bats better at 4 in LOIs ) 5. Hooda 6. Hardik 7. Jadeja 8. Harshal 9. Bumrah 10. Avesh / Mohsin 11. Chahal 12. Kishan 13. Karthick 14. D.Chahar ( backup all-rounder ) 15. Mohsin / Avesh 16. Kuldeep .... Need atleast 2 hit-the deck pacers in the playing 11 for Australia ( and 3 in the squad ) who can bowl slower balls too. .... Must try Mohsin in the next few T20Is. .... Wrist spinners will be ideal for Australia .... 1 dashing opener is needed .... My team has 7 bowling options. .... There is batting till 8 and all can hit. .... Deepak comes in if any of the all-rounders Hardik, Jadeja or Harshal are injured Arshdeep is Tall & gets decent bounce... I'll take him over Avesh both bowl at similar pace. His new ball & death over skill is superior than Avesh. Allows us to use Bumrah as enforcer in middle overs. Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Arshdeep is Tall & gets decent bounce... I'll take him over Avesh both bowl at similar pace. His new ball & death over skill is superior than Avesh. Allows us to use Bumrah as enforcer in middle overs. Arshdeep is not a hit the deck bowler but a floaty bowler ( not that skiddy either ). Very different from Avesh. Hit the deck pacers work in Australia. Edited July 11, 2022 by express bowling SRT100, coffee_rules and Mosher 1 2 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, express bowling said: Arshdeep is not a hit the deck bowler but a floaty bowler ( not that skiddy either ). Very different from Avesh. Hit the deck pacers work in Australia. Avesh doesn't look skiddy either... But yes he hits the deck hard. From what I saw in Southampton which looked more like a Aussie pitch.. Arshdeep was generating decent lift off the deck & bowling in high 138-139 range. Writing him off won't be a good idea. Let's see if he gets a chance in ODI series. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Pant Rohit Kohli KL SKY Hardik Hooda DK Jadeja (although i want Krunal) Ashwin Chahal Bhuvi Bumrah Harshal Umran Arshdeep/Nattu/ Mohsin/Deepak Chahar/Avesh (any 1) Wish i cud make a 18 member squad so i can cover more bases like having kishen so i can have at least one more leftie This will be mine and ill stick by it till the end Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Avesh doesn't look skiddy either... But yes he hits the deck hard. From what I saw in Southampton which looked more like a Aussie pitch.. Arshdeep was generating decent lift off the deck & bowling in high 138-139 range. Writing him off won't be a good idea. Let's see if he gets a chance in ODI series. Avesh is not skiddy but he bowls a heavy ball. I missed the Southampton match but I have faith in your observations. If Arshdeep gets zip and bounce off the deck then he can be a good bowler .... because he has the height and accuracy. Did Arshdeep get zip off the deck ?? Mosher and Lone Wolf 2 Link to comment
Majestic Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Rohit Rahul Kishan Kohli Pant Hooda SKY Pandya Jadeja Bhuvi Bumrah Arshdeep Harshal Yuzi Kuldeep 16th man will be all rounder and it depends on form and fitness both. It will be Deepak Chahar or Washington Sundar or Venky Iyer or Ashwin. This team is lacking in genuine pace but this is how it is going now. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 On 7/11/2022 at 1:06 AM, Majestic said: This team is lacking in genuine pace but this is how it is going now. so pick Umran Link to comment
HamHindustani Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Kohli / Hooda Rohit Hooda / Kohli SKY Pandya Dinesh Karthik / Pant Ravindra Jadeja Bhuvi Harshal Patel Bumrah Chahal Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 38 minutes ago, express bowling said: Avesh is not skiddy but he bowls a heavy ball. I missed the Southampton match but I have faith in your observations. If Arshdeep gets zip and bounce off the deck then he can be a good bowler .... because he has the height and accuracy. Did Arshdeep get zip off the deck ?? Yes he did initially... He did not bowl bumpers or anything but his short off good length balls were getting decent enough bounce maybe coz of pitch. He actually surprised me with his pace. Bowled a couple around 140k as well. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: so pick Umran Umran right now is not ready for a ICC WT20 event. He has to play around 15 games to finally reach at Haris Rauf & maybe around 25-30 to Anrich Nortje level. He should be getting these random bilateral games & kept with national side to further improve. Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Majestic said: Bhuvi Bumrah Arshdeep Harshal . This team is lacking in genuine pace but this is how it is going now. Bumrah gives genuine pace. What this attack lacks is genuine bounce because Bumrah of 2022 does not have the bounce that he did in the 2017 to mid 2021 period. Edited July 11, 2022 by express bowling Mosher 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Going through the different teams, what I am seeing is that most posters are completely ignoring the bounce element in our attack. And that can be a setback anywhere but a major issue in Australia or SA. Mosher 1 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, express bowling said: Arshdeep is not a hit the deck bowler but a floaty bowler ( not that skiddy either ). Very different from Avesh. Hit the deck pacers work in Australia. Correct. Which is why Bhuvi at his pace will be slaughtered and batsmen will hit him all the way back to India. I like your team selection: 1. Rohit ( as he is the captain ) 2. Pant 3. SKY 4. Rahul ( bats better at 4 in LOIs ) 5. Hooda 6. Hardik 7. Jadeja 8. Harshal 9. Bumrah 10. Avesh / Mohsin 11. Chahal Dont know enough about Hooda at 5 and a little concerned about Harshal. Outside of that its the right combination. First 3 batsmen can all score heavy, quickly and destroy an atttack. Hardik and Jaddu can finish an innings. KL is the right middle order here. India is limited in batting with 9,10 and 11, but these guys will never really win you a match batting, but they can win a match bowling. express bowling and Vijy 2 Link to comment
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