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1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

There goes his chances in becoming PM if he had any…

 

 

He has been saying lot of that acting tough on China & stuff...  Closing Confucius institutions etc...  And had blowback since then as he had strongly favored closed ties with China as opposed to Truss.  This is his another one of those attempts to secure confidence of Tory memebers.  He is swinging alright though...  Going down with a fight. 

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6 hours ago, mishra said:

Atleast I am being honest. Since he came to number 11(specially during COVID) all the socialist and welfare  policies he came up with  even managed to shutup labour and LD leaders, while taxed me more and more. Why should i vote for him. I have left India for economic reasons and my voting will  be primarily driven by how a leader impacts my personal finances.

 

The problem is that there are billions available to provide arms to Ukraine and millions to put up illegal refugees in 4star hotels BUT there is no money to reduce tax burden on citizens or provide financial help on energy bills. There arrogance to spite Russia with sanctions is what is leading to their OWN citizens suffering. Is that Conservative behaviour? Truss was as enthusiastic about the anti russia rhetoric as BoJo

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19 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said:

 

The problem is that there are billions available to provide arms to Ukraine and millions to put up illegal refugees in 4star hotels BUT there is no money to reduce tax burden on citizens or provide financial help on energy bills. There arrogance to spite Russia with sanctions is what is leading to their OWN citizens suffering. Is that Conservative behaviour? Truss was as enthusiastic about the anti russia rhetoric as BoJo

Agrre.  I see Russia as enemy to UK and Western interest and I dont mind government to maintain its current policy to contain Russia and if most of pain is passed onto us. But, if you see other side, Every sector of economy has been mismanaged. Why did they create a housing bubble by keeping interest rates so low for so long, why was stamp duty holiday introduced?  Why does there exists a tax on Health insurance (Isnt people taking away some of burden off NHS buy buying Health insurance. Today most of Britain educated Doctors are leaving UK while one in 3 doctor is coming to UK from Developing world )? Why do poor have to pay road tax on their cars while tax break(Road tax, corporation) is given on EVs specially on something like TESLA car which is more or less luxury car , making it in China. If Shunak really wanted, he could have put a price cap on EVs (say like of Hyundai Toyota and Kia)  would have only qualified and then would have shared the same rebate to income tax.

Free money upto 50K was given to even taxi drivers as business allowance which they took it and then went bust as company.

Dole given to people was so much and so high that even Labour and Liberals were speeechless if they can ask anything more.

 

Trust me, every sector, allmost every secor was mismanged. Free money given, has come out of pockets of people mid and high income tax brackets along with hidden charges on big corporations who actually create job. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, mishra said:

Agrre.  I see Russia as enemy to UK and Western interest and I dont mind government to maintain its current policy to contain Russia and if most of pain is passed onto us. But, if you see other side, Every sector of economy has been mismanaged. Why did they create a housing bubble by keeping interest rates so low for so long, why was stamp duty holiday introduced?  Why does there exists a tax on Health insurance (Isnt people taking away some of burden off NHS buy buying Health insurance. Today most of Britain educated Doctors are leaving UK while one in 3 doctor is coming to UK from Developing world )? Why do poor have to pay road tax on their cars while tax break(Road tax, corporation) is given on EVs specially on something like TESLA car which is more or less luxury car , making it in China. If Shunak really wanted, he could have put a price cap on EVs (say like of Hyundai Toyota and Kia)  would have only qualified and then would have shared the same rebate to income tax.

Free money upto 50K was given to even taxi drivers as business allowance which they took it and then went bust as company.

Dole given to people was so much and so high that even Labour and Liberals were speeechless if they can ask anything more.

 

Trust me, every sector, allmost every secor was mismanged. Free money given, has come out of pockets of people mid and high income tax brackets along with hidden charges on big corporations who actually create job. 

 

 

 

Well sorry to disagree but i do mind- the current pending recession is due to the energy market crisis vis a vi sanctions on russia. This whole conflict is a western created mess and its citizens are suffering. If people have to spend 60/70% more on energy and fuel bills than they used to then yes less to spend on in the wider economy.

 

Agree some of their decisions especially during covid such as Eat out to Help put, stamp duty waivers which pushed up house prices fro no reason. Their reckless spending on dodgy contracts for their rich friends is showing how much mismanaged the whole country is when it comes to finances and priorities. Its not about Truss is better than Sunak, thwo political system in the UK is broken and not fit for purpose.

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23 minutes ago, nevada said:

UK PM Hopeful Rishi Sunak Scores Surprise Debate Win Over Rival Liz Truss The final vote showed a larger number of hands for Rishi Sunak than for Liz Truss, as the host admitted that she wasn't expecting the overwhelming support for Sunak.

 

 

Its no brainer as to who is better between the two. Shunak wins hands down when it comes to brain. Problem is, he is no politician, too smart and comes out as socialist

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9 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

So conservatives turned out to be racist by choosing a white women and reject a brown man? White Brits don’t have the white guilt unlike their counterparts across the pond . Race vs Gender which was more prominent in this election? Neither, I suppose. 

Shunak winning allmost  42%  votes among mostly white population of  conservatives is probably more votes then Barack Obama would get if he contested as Republican candidate.

 

It also goes to show how poor even Conservatives think about Liz Truss that they would rather vote someone who is known as Indian to govern them.

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6 hours ago, Ranvir said:

Most majorities don't want to be ruled over by a minoroty. It's the same the world oveove

In the end him being a minority had very little to do with it , he was far ahead of her in the MPs selection but lost it with the Conservative members because 

 

1) he was protrayed as the guy who brought their hero and dear leader Boris Johnson down 

 

2) he didn't spout enough far right nonsense at every hustings 

 

3) he was only one who was not promising Tax Cuts 

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