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UK ‘will be seen as racist’ if Tories reject Rishi Sunak

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11 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

US White had the same guilt in 2008 when Obama was getting elected. If whites didn’t support  Obama, they’d be seen as racist!

 

i don't think this kind of intervention is helpful. racists (at least the british variety) hate being called racist. we are all a bit racist.

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18 minutes ago, goose said:

 

i don't think this kind of intervention is helpful. racists (at least the british variety) hate being called racist. we are all a bit racist.

That’s true for US too. They go out of the way to show they are progressive. They also have the savior complex. I don’t know if it works in getting Rishi elected. He is seen as more privileged, snotty upper class politician than other Brits.

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Rishi is getting trashed in the press...  The fact that he is a rich dude is a massive disadvantage to him.  Basically a rich private school educated guy. 

He is fighting an uphill battle to win against Truss who is favorite to win coz Rishi has been seen as one of the main forces behind gaslighting Boris..  Among the Tories that's a biggest red flag for them. 

 

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All countries, all people everywhere, are racist.  Some more than others.  But that's largely a function of contributing factors.  

 

From a distance, and without a lot of informed facts, it seems like Sunak is way more 'qualified' than the alternative candidate, and the fact that its even close, appears to be highly co-related to who he is in terms of ethnicity, rather than his politics.  

 

I expect him to win, but narrowly.  And I'd say this to British "Asians".  Be warned.  Obama's Presidency led directly to Trump and "take the country back".   Good luck.  You're going to need it.  Besides - again from very far away, and not knowing much details - even Sunak's 'politics' don't quite seem to really be what your country, sorry 'kingdom', needs.   So good luck. 

goose Grand Master

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7 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

What’s the ethnicity break-up of the Tories’ party membership? Mostly white? @goose 100k seems pretty huge for UK Caucasian population. 

nobody knows the true number of members but it's thought to be about 160k consisting of mainly white, 60+ year old men. the demographic is seen on the very right wing of the spectrum. to complicate matters it is thought lots of ex members of a far right party called UKIP joined the Conservative membership a few years ago to to force the issue on Brexit so that makes it even more bigoted. there is another quirk that allows people abroad to join the membership and thereby get a vote, which is absurd because they wouldnt be allowed to vote in a general election, but this technically a party leadership election although de facto will decide who is PM.

 

i have always had a simple view of racism. it does exist but it can be overcome, you just have to be a lot better than the next person. all your faults are amplified.

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On 7/28/2022 at 6:18 PM, Clarke said:

Why didn't they get a super rare minority, like some bisexual native american with filipino, maori, zulu & aztec ancestry, to run as a candidate ?

There's Leo Waradkar in neighbouring Ireland. He is a a biracial, gay man. 

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Controversial statement. But Indian origin hindu folks will remain second class citizens abroad in western sphere. Useful members of society but with a clear cap. Even African americans and Latinos will have an edge in this regards. The only possibility is a hard core Christian who is anti elite. 

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goose Grand Master

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22 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

Controversial statement. But Indian origin hindu folks will remain second class citizens abroad in western sphere. Useful members of society but with a clear cap. Even African americans and Latinos will have an edge in this regards. The only possibility is a hard core Christian who is anti elite. 

your average UK racist would not know or care if you were muslim or hindu

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2 hours ago, mishra said:

I will vote for Liz. Shunak is mostly a labour ( not leftist retard but one who will work for economically behind class more) candidate, and thats not Conservative enough for me.

Seen many stupid political statements by UK voters over the years but I have to say that one is definitely in the top 5 

gattaca Grand Master

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Liz probably won’t be good for india uk relations. remember her debate with Jai Shankar she kept on bringing up about Russia when it was UK and India summit. You can bring it once but this was a theme during that meet. Don’t think she has the leadership after watching her debating with jai shankar.

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18 hours ago, Tattieboy said:

Seen many stupid political statements by UK voters over the years but I have to say that one is definitely in the top 5 

Atleast I am being honest. Since he came to number 11(specially during COVID) all the socialist and welfare  policies he came up with  even managed to shutup labour and LD leaders, while taxed me more and more. Why should i vote for him. I have left India for economic reasons and my voting will  be primarily driven by how a leader impacts my personal finances.

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