Popular Post coffee_rules Posted August 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2022 Sabko Dher saara shubhkamnayen Vande Mataram!! beetle, mishra, ThirtyD. and 9 others 1 5 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EnterTheVoid Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Happy Independence Day. Never take the freedom for granted. Wished I was in India for Independence Day. I was in Mumbai till Friday afternoon. BacktoCricaddict, sandeep, coffee_rules and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Vande Mataram Wishing all icfers a very happy Independence Day. coffee_rules, Sgattick10, Mariyam and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sandeep Posted August 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2022 Vande Mataram. Decades away from India, but it is still my motherland. janani janmabhoomischa svargaadapi gariyasi. EnterTheVoid, Austin 3:!6, coffee_rules and 9 others 5 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamHindustani Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Vande Mataram ! Happy Independence Day. Mariyam, Austin 3:!6, coffee_rules and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vayuu1 Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Svatantrata divas ki palladium jayanti ke uplakshya main bhartiya lamb Dand gol pind prashansak dal evam samast bharat vasiyo ko hardik shubhkamnaye beetle, coffee_rules, Mariyam and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lone Wolf Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Happy Independence day to all ICF Long live my India Mariyam, Austin 3:!6, zen and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BacktoCricaddict Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Happy Independence Day to all. A young nation that has grown tremendously in a short period of time - from achieving food security in the 1960s-70s to incredible economic growth starting in the 90s, India has given a lot to the world. Now, it is time to keep pressing forward on economic upliftment (zero hunger, zero poverty) and education for all (zero illiteracy). Appreciate past glories. but keep looking ahead to future growth via indigenously developed modern science and technology. Vickydev, diga, Mariyam and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin 3:!6 Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Happy 9th Independence day - Kangana Ranaut IYKWIM dial_100, LordPrabhzy and Mariyam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 12 hours ago, sandeep said: Vande Mataram. Decades away from India, but it is still my motherland. janani janmabhoomischa svargaadapi gariyasi. Oh yessir ... the janmabhoomi vs karmabhoomi dilemma. Personally, I often think of the "what-ifs" in the immigrant journey. The intent was always to go back after getting a PhD to contribute to India's agbiotech sector. But I was an average Joe - simply not good enough to get a job in the then thin market in India. One company offered me a position "verbally", but would not talk salary until I moved. The risk was too much to bear, and not being entrepreneurial, I decided not to be Trishanku. So, American roots were put out. No regrets, but the what-ifs do remain. Mariyam, sandeep and coffee_rules 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Oh yessir ... the janmabhoomi vs karmabhoomi dilemma. Personally, I often think of the "what-ifs" in the immigrant journey. The intent was always to go back after getting a PhD to contribute to India's agbiotech sector. But I was an average Joe - simply not good enough to get a job in the then thin market in India. One company offered me a position "verbally", but would not talk salary until I moved. The risk was too much to bear, and not being entrepreneurial, I decided not to be Trishanku. So, American roots were put out. No regrets, but the what-ifs do remain. So many folks have the same thought - "I'll seriously consider moving back after 'x' years, or 'x' amount in the piggy bank". But reality is that we are here now, and our kids are rooted here, and by extension so are we. Best I can try to do is to attempt exposing the next generation to the culture, the vibe, coupled with as many trips as possible to the 'homeland', and see how that goes. Honestly speaking for all the progress that India has made in the last couple of decades - and it has been massive - but still, there are major risks associated at basic quality of life issues if you move back. Think back to early days of Covid - bottomline is that as a citizen of the US, we got access to vaccines super early. And in case of the pandemic really going south, we don't have to worry about basic staples like uninterrupted electricity supply, stocking up on groceries, essentials etc. I mean, there's a reason why such a flood of promising young talent leaves Indian soil every day in pursuit of foreign 'karmabhoomi'. It is what it is. There is no 'right' or 'wrong'. Each person's situations are different. Edited August 15, 2022 by sandeep Mariyam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 ^ I would say yes and no. Yes there are risks but there are also opportunities. Yes the quality of life is not comparable but then life itself is not comparable. India cannot and should not be benchmarked to western mode of life. I still believe that if one has the money is upper middle class, it's best country in the world. But yes we are running a major risk of losing our talent. The delta advantage of moving abroad is shrinking but quality of life and peace of mind remains a factor. But then Shakti is returning back to this land. It will be an era of India and SE Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcastic Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Happy Independence day folks!!! Mariyam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 15, 2022 Author Share Posted August 15, 2022 2 hours ago, sandeep said: So many folks have the same thought - "I'll seriously consider moving back after 'x' years, or 'x' amount in the piggy bank". But reality is that we are here now, and our kids are rooted here, and by extension so are we. Best I can try to do is to attempt exposing the next generation to the culture, the vibe, coupled with as many trips as possible to the 'homeland', and see how that goes. Honestly speaking for all the progress that India has made in the last couple of decades - and it has been massive - but still, there are major risks associated at basic quality of life issues if you move back. Think back to early days of Covid - bottomline is that as a citizen of the US, we got access to vaccines super early. And in case of the pandemic really going south, we don't have to worry about basic staples like uninterrupted electricity supply, stocking up on groceries, essentials etc. I mean, there's a reason why such a flood of promising young talent leaves Indian soil every day in pursuit of foreign 'karmabhoomi'. It is what it is. There is no 'right' or 'wrong'. Each person's situations are different. QoL is all but a mirage. It’s all upto where one is happy. I tried to move back in 2015 and I didn’t experience any QoL issues except maybe traffic. Lived in a gated community close to work, was near to family and cousins . Had all comforts of domestic help for the house, cook, driver etc , 24 hr electricity, water, close to hospitals and clinics. Went on vacations to places you’d dream of. Except for kids’ schooling, I was much happy there than here in those two years. Had I gone 10 years earlier, it would have been easy on kids. Back here, in Covid times, had a recent health scare, surgery was delayed due to no hospital beds, overcrowded with Covid cases. If everything is ok, it looks very good. If sh1t hits the fan, anyplace can be as bad. sandeep, Mariyam and BacktoCricaddict 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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