BacktoCricaddict Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 https://news.yahoo.com/iranian-women-cutting-off-hair-152600782.html Iranian women are protesting the death of one of their own, Mahsa Amini. Amini, a 22-year-old, died on Friday, three days after being arrested by Iran's morality police. These police officers have all the powers of a law enforcement agency and are in charge of enforcing the country's strict dress code mandates for women, including wearing a hijab in public to cover one's hair and neck. Amini was taken to the Vozara Street Detention Center Tuesday to be educated about the hijab, Tehran Police said, per CNN. But while in custody, Amini collapsed and was taken to the hospital, where she later died. Local police claimed she suffered a heart attack, while her family said she had no prior heart conditions and witnesses accused officers of beating her, per the BBC.
coffee_rules Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 31 have died so far in what the west are s calling it Iran Spring
gattaca Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 Strange how woman in India wants to wear hijab but the original Muslims don’t want to. velu 1
Vilander Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, gattaca said: Strange how woman in India wants to wear hijab but the original Muslims don’t want to. They are doing us a favor if you ask me, both of them. Edited September 22, 2022 by Vilander gattaca, Stan AF, velu and 2 others 5
Vilander Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 Some Persian female acquaintances are struggling in the west, doom scrolling and crying. velu 1
gattaca Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 Checking on our Iranian connection @velu velu 1
Clarke Posted September 23, 2022 Posted September 23, 2022 Thought there was a new Apple shoe or thereabouts. Mariyam 1
ravishingravi Posted September 23, 2022 Posted September 23, 2022 Iran us a very complex country with rich history pre Islamic invasion. The Persian in them us not fully dead yet. G_B_ 1
randomGuy Posted September 23, 2022 Posted September 23, 2022 Respect to the Iranis...hope subcontinent Muslims learn.
BacktoCricaddict Posted September 23, 2022 Author Posted September 23, 2022 14 hours ago, gattaca said: Strange how woman in India wants to wear hijab but the original Muslims don’t want to. I think it has less to do with not wanting the hijab itself, and more to do with religious coercion that one *must* wear it. If a Muslim woman wants to wear a Hijab - for whatever reason - that is her choice and it is not anyone's place to question it. If a Muslim woman does not want to wear a Hijab - for whatever reason - that is her choice and it is not anyone's place to question it. sarcastic 1
G_B_ Posted September 23, 2022 Posted September 23, 2022 Whichever Iranian i have met in the uk has been extremely modern in outlook. Man or woman. My sample size may not be representative as i interact with academics (phd students/ lecturers) who have a middle class to rich backgrounds. As posters say, it is a complicated country.... Seen this with Turkish people as well. 50% liberal than even the west 50% very conservative muslims. No middle ground... velu and Gollum 2
mishra Posted September 23, 2022 Posted September 23, 2022 14 hours ago, gattaca said: Strange how woman in India wants to wear hijab but the original Muslims don’t want to. Has it ever occuurred, why in West and developing nation democracies, media supports anyone calling for Hizab or any other Muslim practice as matter of Faith but as soon as its Iran, media comes together and start giving voice to those who call the same practicess regressive.
beetle Posted September 23, 2022 Posted September 23, 2022 I hope the Indian govt comes out in support of the women of Iran who want the choice to not wear hijab...the symbol of oppressive denial of basic freedom. Go girls...burn that symbol of denial.
BacktoCricaddict Posted September 23, 2022 Author Posted September 23, 2022 22 minutes ago, mishra said: Has it ever occuurred, why in West and developing nation democracies, media supports anyone calling for Hizab or any other Muslim practice as matter of Faith but as soon as its Iran, media comes together and start giving voice to those who call the same practicess regressive. Perhaps the contradiction goes away if we looked at it differently: Conservative Western Christian politicians talk about banning the Hijab whereas the conservative Muslim rulers in Iran talk about banning the non-Hijab. In both cases, the protest is against the bans and not against the Hijab itself. Mariyam 1
mishra Posted September 23, 2022 Posted September 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Perhaps the contradiction goes away if we looked at it differently: Conservative Western Christian politicians talk about banning the Hijab whereas the conservative Muslim rulers in Iran talk about banning the non-Hijab. In both cases, the protest is against the bans and not against the Hijab itself. My question was about Western media propagating to people speaking for regressive practices in West but as soon as its Iran, tables are turned. beetle 1
BacktoCricaddict Posted September 23, 2022 Author Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, mishra said: My question was about Western media propagating to people speaking for regressive practices in West but as soon as its Iran, tables are turned. I think what I was trying to say (and didn't do a good job of it) was that the media is protesting coercion rather than the Hijab itself. They are protesting the non-Muslim majority in power in the West trying to bring Hijab bans, and are protesting the Iranian government for their draconian hijab mandates. Edited September 23, 2022 by BacktoCricaddict
velu Posted September 23, 2022 Posted September 23, 2022 17 hours ago, gattaca said: Checking on our Iranian connection @velu she is non-stop checking the stuff for the last few days .. It looks like only 20-35 age group is protesting She is surprised that this time government is not using professionals to control the protests gattaca and Mariyam 2
velu Posted September 23, 2022 Posted September 23, 2022 4 hours ago, G_B_ said: Whichever Iranian i have met in the uk has been extremely modern in outlook. Man or woman. My sample size may not be representative as i interact with academics (phd students/ lecturers) who have a middle class to rich backgrounds. As posters say, it is a complicated country.... Seen this with Turkish people as well. 50% liberal than even the west 50% very conservative muslims. No middle ground... 80% Persians are liberal and most are moderately religious .. remaining 20% are hardcore ( associated with government directly or indirectly ) and many of them pretend to be religious
Mariyam Posted September 23, 2022 Posted September 23, 2022 8 hours ago, randomGuy said: Respect to the Iranis...hope subcontinent Muslims learn. Learn what? Don't know about the rest of the subcontinent, but as a %age far fewer Indian Muslim women wear the hijab than their Iranian counterparts.
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