Bhuvneswar Kumar's lack of wicket with new ball is going to hurt Indian team in WT20

[prudent_kreeda]

10 hours ago, express bowling said:

Bhuvi is the bowling equivalent of the consolidators we have in batting  ... but with a lower ceiling.

 

Because his overall ER is low and he picks wickets in low key matches, questions won't be raised ... but he rarely picks wickets upfront in the big matches and his death bowling has really gone down. 

And selectors seem to consider him for 24WCT20 as he is getting selected in T20 team right after WCT20 in 2022 ! What madness . 

[putrevus]

10 hours ago, express bowling said:

Bhuvi is the bowling equivalent of the consolidators we have in batting  ... but with a lower ceiling.

 

Because his overall ER is low and he picks wickets in low key matches, questions won't be raised ... but he rarely picks wickets upfront in the big matches and his death bowling has really gone down. 

Do we have any explosive batsmen sitting in shed anywhere?

[AKane]

11 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

11 hours ago, Sgattick10 said:

Agree. Need wickets upfront from him. Cos he can't do much at the death. Having said that I think his initial tight overs helped Arshdeep in picking wickets 

 

It's another myth that it helped Arshdeep.

 

We can go around in circles with this .... Arshdeep's wickets helped Bhuvaneshwar's economy is also arguable and more likely.

[vvvslaxman]

9 minutes ago, AKane said:

 

We can go around in circles with this .... Arshdeep's wickets helped Bhuvaneshwar's economy is also arguable and more likely.

 

I don't think they are dependent on each other.  It is not like they tried to attack Arshdeep and got out. They were comprehensively beaten by swing at probing length.  The way he swung the ball both ways batsmen couldn't prepare themselves.

[AKane]

11 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

I don't think they are dependent on each other.  It is not like they tried to attack Arshdeep and got out. They were comprehensively beaten by swing at probing length.  The way he swung the ball both ways batsmen couldn't prepare themselves.

 yeah but two quick wickets by Arshdeep - that too of the dangerous Riley and Quinton caused Temba and Markram to panic/slowdown more and helped Bhuvaneshwar's economy.  That definitely happened.

[vvvslaxman]

3 minutes ago, AKane said:

 yeah but two quick wickets by Arshdeep - that too of the dangerous Riley and Quinton caused Temba and Markram to panic/slowdown more and helped Bhuvaneshwar's economy.  That definitely happened.

 

Yes.  Only reason he gets some respect is because he can swing both ways. Would be interesting to see his pitch map especially how many balls actually hit the stumps

[Khota]

6 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said:

but according to @Khota he's doing 'fine'.... i mean indians are famed for aspiring for mediocrity but today i've seen the evidence

What do you mean Indians are aspiring for mediocrity?

If a team puts 130+ on board it is batting that is the issue. KL in particular has hurt India and Dravid will not drop him. But let us keep on blaming Bhuvneshvar as that is a cool thing to do. I don't know what you watch but Bhuvneshwar is not the issue. He is bowling better than all Indian bowlers so far and that includes media's current darling Arshdeep.

[The Realist]

If want economy and no wickets may as well drag Ishant Sharma back from the dead. 

 

Plus will fall from skyscrapers for his captain if things don't work out.

 

Win win.

[Need4Speed]

Bhuvi is looking better due to wkts upfront by Arshdeep..else if no wkts in first couple of overs..agressive batsmen wud hv lined him up..like what Cameroon Green did in India..

Bhuvi’s stats are good and he did well as a support bowler but not as a premier bowler..which he shud hv in absence of Bumrah..

Everything looks good for now from the opening bowlers but real test is yet to come..against 2 of 3 opponents

Buttler + Hales

Conway+Finn Allen

Finch+Warner..assuming Finch improves..

 

So my Issue is this..had Bumrah been available  and lets say Shami was also a middle over choice..then they wud hv picked Bhuvi ahead of Arshdeep..I dont like that..

or to keep it simple..

 

wud you like wkts upfront with Arshdeep or you will pick economical Bhuvi ahead of Arshdeep in ur team..

ofc..You hv different roles of the bowlers in the team but when we were forming our xi ahead of world cup..we were not picking Bhuvi for his economical first few overs only..as he is vulnerable in the death now and dont add value with batting..

 

which team will pick a bowler only for 2 economical overs in PP..

 

In short economical Bhuvi without wkts is subpar performance in my books..which esp hurts in low scoring matches..as req run rate can easily be covered up later

[nitinbwj]

3 overs 27 runs. Useless. Atleast Arshdeep is taking wickets. Bhuvi would have given those 20 runs in last over. 

[Number]

If we are fair, he actually got a genuince nick of Liton Das but DK messed it up.

I have always maintained if TM has sniff that it is going to be a patta wicket with no swing, they should not pick him. 

But he is a wonder of statistics in this format.

Edited November 2, 2022 by Number

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, nitinbwj said:

3 overs 27 runs. Useless. Atleast Arshdeep is taking wickets. Bhuvi would have given those 20 runs in last over. 

 

Arshdeep is the leading wicket taker along with Sam Curran  in this super-12 phase

Edited November 2, 2022 by vvvslaxman

[nitinbwj]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Bhuvi is the leading wicket taker along with Sam Curran  in this super-12 phase

Really? I thought it's Arshdeep

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, nitinbwj said:

Really? I thought it's Arshdeep

I am sorry lol I meant Arshdeep. The thread title distracted me

[Lord]

economy kumar again wicketless

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, Lord said:

economy kumar again wicketless

 

You beat me to it. I had this name Econ Kumar lol

[Pollack]

Bhoobi again wicketless. Our team is full of frauds:

KL Rahul/Rohit opening

DK as finisher

Pandya as an allrounder

Bhoobi as a spearhead

Axar as a batsman

[The Realist]

Kumar's motto: Wickets are overrated 

[adi B]

Really innocuous bowling ,as expected Bangladesh took him on as well as the others. But at least the others picked up wkts in the process but this guy just doesn't have it in him.

 

[nitinbwj]

15 minutes ago, adi B said:

Really innocuous bowling ,as expected Bangladesh took him on as well as the others. But at least the others picked up wkts in the process but this guy just doesn't have it in him.

 

Arshdeep nailed yorkers after yorkers.Bhuvi didnt even try.