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Bhuvneswar Kumar's lack of wicket with new ball is going to hurt Indian team in WT20


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9 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Bhuvi is the bowling equivalent of the consolidators we have in batting  ... but with a lower ceiling.

 

Becausd his overall ER is low abd he picks wickets in low key matches, questions won't be raised ... but he rarely picks wickets upfront in the big matches and his death howling has really gone down. 

Correct.


We all know also that wickets in hand at the end is massive.

 

You need to inflict early damage with cuts and bruises to prevent heavy bleeding at the end.

 

50 off 3 overs is very doable in T20  cricket in the 18,19 and 20th overs.

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We are not losing matches because of our seamers no matter their limitations. 

 

It's the lack of quality spin and spin play. Miller hit 14 runs off 3 overpitched Ashwin deliveries whereas Saffer spinners overpitched 2 deliveries and we scored 2 runs. 

 

You can replace bhuvi with whatever seamer you think is best fit to replace him and we will still lose. 

 

 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

We are not losing matches because of our seamers no matter their limitations. 

You can replace bhuvi with whatever seamer you think is best fit to replace him and we will still lose. 

 

 

We won't, provided the new pacer can pick more wickets than Bhuvi.

 

Wickets are the key.

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Posted
1 minute ago, express bowling said:

 

We won't provided the new pacer can pick more wickets than Bhuvi.

 

Wickets are the key.

Rabada is quicker and taller than Bhuvi and he didn't take wickets either . Arshdeep has that left arm angle and that's harder to negotiate . But SA batters were generally playing a bit more cautiously .

 

There were many reasons for yesterday's defeat - Poor batting strategy (Perth demands conservative batting upfront and aggression in the 2nd half),   more intent against overpitched deliveries by the likes of DK,   ack of a quality spinner, pathetic standards in the field. Seam bowling is the least of the issues right now imo.

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It is no secret that Bhuvi has been a very limited bowler. Everybody knows that, and everybody knows he has been hyped for reasons unknown. 

T20 is such a fast format, do you even need consolidators? 

 

The whole strategy of team India has been wrong. T20 is a format where you got to go all out with guns blazing. Not try playing 70's cricket. 70's cricket is what India is playing. You need to give chances to new players. Let them develop. 

Playing a proven failure again and again will not give you a different result. Its as simple as that.

Posted (edited)
22 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Rabada is quicker and taller than Bhuvi and he didn't take wickets either . Arshdeep has that left arm angle and that's harder to negotiate . But SA batters were generally playing a bit more cautiously .

 

There were many reasons for yesterday's defeat - Poor batting strategy (Perth demands conservative batting upfront and aggression in the 2nd half),   more intent against overpitched deliveries by the likes of DK,   ack of a quality spinner, pathetic standards in the field. Seam bowling is the least of the issues right now imo.

 

 

Was talking about just wicket taking ability and nothing else in that post.

 

Surely you don't believe that Bhuvi is the ultimate wicket taker we can find !    His wickets per match are low in every format.

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Posted
4 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Was talking about just wicket taking ability and nothing else in that post.

 

Surely you don't believe that Bhuvi is the ultimate wicket taker we can find !    His wickets per match are low in every format.

In this World Cup, Bhuvi has been amongst the most economical bowlers I believe only Boult, Nortje and maybe one other bowler has been more economical. Shami hasn't taken any more wickets than Bhuvi

 

It's not much but considering we have much more pressing issues than the seam bowling , I don't think we should start looking to fix something that has been working OK. 

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

In this World Cup, Bhuvi has been amongst the most economical bowlers I believe only Boult, Nortje and maybe one other bowler has been more economical. Shami hasn't taken any more wickets than Bhuvi

 

It's not much but considering we have much more pressing issues than the seam bowling , I don't think we should start looking to fix something that has been working OK. 

 

Shami is a forced selection due to Bumrah's injury. Don't forget that he has not played any T20s after the IPL while others played. But he has still outbowled Bhuvi with an early wicket in both the big matches and better death bowling too.

 

This has been a pace bowlers' world cup in a majority of the matches so far. If the pacers can't take enough wickets, we will struggle to win.

 

 

 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Lord said:

Zero early wickets in 2019 WC (We dropped Shami in semi)

 

zero in 2021 WT20

 

Zero till now except Ned game.

 

New ball run stopper. Can't call him strike bowler

but according to @Khota he's doing 'fine'.... i mean indians are famed for aspiring for mediocrity but today i've seen the evidence

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