singhvivek141 Posted July 29, 2025 Posted July 29, 2025 6 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: The reason people want hi above 7 is because his batting potential is wasted. He is not one of those guys who would suddenly make a 20 ball 50 because there are tailenders to bat with. When you bat at 8 you are more likely to bati with tailenders than top order batsman. So you end up only getting 20 to 30% ouf ot his maximum capacity. I understand the expectation, but eventually it all depends on teams balance. Washy has shown the potential to hang around, avoiding the opposition to teething into the tail. Plus he does have shots, which he can play with the tail. Both Pant & Washy are underrated in terms of their ability to play with the tail. Its not always about numbers, its the impact that they offer. Historically as well, Pollock was an extremely capable batter, could have easily been no 6. But played majority of his career at no 8....coz thats what team needed. Laxman played at no 3/opener for Hyderabad...but had to settle at no 5/6 for the team. Ganguly too was an opener for Bengal but moved to no 5 for Sehwag.
Lord Posted July 29, 2025 Posted July 29, 2025 His dad needs to calm down https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/washington-sundars-father-lets-it-rip-at-ajit-agarkar-after-manchester-rescue-act-selectors-should-watch-his-101753712858908.html Gollum 1
vvvslaxman Posted July 29, 2025 Posted July 29, 2025 5 minutes ago, Lord said: His dad needs to calm down https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/washington-sundars-father-lets-it-rip-at-ajit-agarkar-after-manchester-rescue-act-selectors-should-watch-his-101753712858908.html These dads often end up ruining reputation of their sons. Ashwin's dad said something. But Ashwin clarified it though. Lord and Gollum 2
Vk1 Posted July 30, 2025 Posted July 30, 2025 Not sure what do we gain by having both Sundar and Jadeja in same 11 in SENA. We can never pick 20 wickets. putrevus 1
vvvslaxman Posted July 30, 2025 Posted July 30, 2025 37 minutes ago, Vk1 said: Not sure what do we gain by having both Sundar and Jadeja in same 11 in SENA. We can never pick 20 wickets. Actually they were the only ones who picked wickets in the 4th test lol Fast bowlers were the ones that went missing. You can get rid of THakur and include Kuldeep. Jadeja is a pure batsman in SENA.
Gollum Posted July 30, 2025 Posted July 30, 2025 10 hours ago, Lord said: His dad needs to calm down https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/washington-sundars-father-lets-it-rip-at-ajit-agarkar-after-manchester-rescue-act-selectors-should-watch-his-101753712858908.html 10 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: These dads often end up ruining reputation of their sons. Ashwin's dad said something. But Ashwin clarified it though. Washi and Sanju's dads, Yograj....only make lives of their kids tougher. Washi I am sure is a normal, well-mannered humble boy, calm head on his shoulders...but some people may get the wrong impression because of his dad's antics. Mariyam 1
rkt.india Posted July 30, 2025 Posted July 30, 2025 6 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Actually they were the only ones who picked wickets in the 4th test lol Fast bowlers were the ones that went missing. You can get rid of THakur and include Kuldeep. Jadeja is a pure batsman in SENA. That's the point. If you depend on spinners to pick wickets in SENA, you will have similar game like Old Trafford most of the times. crictime and Vk1 2
Lone Wolf Posted July 30, 2025 Posted July 30, 2025 (edited) 7 hours ago, Vk1 said: Not sure what do we gain by having both Sundar and Jadeja in same 11 in SENA. We can never pick 20 wickets. Pace attack was terrible for Manchester... Half fit Bumrah, Tired Siraj and Kam-Bhoj + Gandul Kya karte fir Edited July 30, 2025 by Lone Wolf
Serpico Posted July 30, 2025 Posted July 30, 2025 8 hours ago, Vk1 said: Not sure what do we gain by having both Sundar and Jadeja in same 11 in SENA. We can never pick 20 wickets. its not like they stopped the 4 pacers from picking wickets. Sundar didn't even get to bowl in the first 50 overs, last match
vvvslaxman Posted July 30, 2025 Posted July 30, 2025 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: That's the point. If you depend on spinners to pick wickets in SENA, you will have similar game like Old Trafford most of the times. We missed the bus. We are having exclusively no wicket taking seamers in the reserves. Also taking wickets on flat wickets is an art. These guys are remotely good at that. Spin is England's achiells heel even on flat wickets.
Scarface Posted July 30, 2025 Posted July 30, 2025 4 hours ago, Gollum said: Washi and Sanju's dads, Yograj....only make lives of their kids tougher. Washi I am sure is a normal, well-mannered humble boy, calm head on his shoulders...but some people may get the wrong impression because of his dad's antics. Theory of cause and effect - such Dads might be the reason for sons to be level-headed.
rkt.india Posted July 30, 2025 Posted July 30, 2025 21 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: We missed the bus. We are having exclusively no wicket taking seamers in the reserves. Also taking wickets on flat wickets is an art. These guys are remotely good at that. Spin is England's achiells heel even on flat wickets. That's not true. England has no problem playing spin on flat tracks.
vvvslaxman Posted July 30, 2025 Posted July 30, 2025 2 minutes ago, rkt.india said: That's not true. England has no problem playing spin on flat tracks. I am talking on relative terms. Even on flat tracks they are likely to be more comfortable against subbish pace than spin. Also they are not going to block against spin. They will give you chances from time to time. Manucrick 1
maniac Posted July 30, 2025 Posted July 30, 2025 (edited) Very good, industrious and effective cricketer. Also has good cricket acumen. as a cricket fan extremely boring to watch. Bowling is boring but effective darts with no real bite, guile or spice and batting is claw,scratch. Survive with dab to third man with the odd hoick. Fielding is also is very mediocre Edited July 30, 2025 by maniac
coffee_rules Posted July 30, 2025 Posted July 30, 2025 (edited) On 7/28/2025 at 3:55 PM, BacktoCricaddict said: She's quite lenient for letting him eat in the sofa room. Mariyaadaya dining room la saapDamaaTTaan? Moms are lenient towards millionaire sons Edited July 30, 2025 by coffee_rules BacktoCricaddict 1
BacktoCricaddict Posted July 30, 2025 Posted July 30, 2025 17 hours ago, Lord said: His dad needs to calm down https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/washington-sundars-father-lets-it-rip-at-ajit-agarkar-after-manchester-rescue-act-selectors-should-watch-his-101753712858908.html He is the Gautam Gambhir of parenting. nevada and Lord 2
BacktoCricaddict Posted July 30, 2025 Posted July 30, 2025 2 hours ago, Scarface said: Theory of cause and effect - such Dads might be the reason for sons to be level-headed. Yep. There's another example in the NBA - Lamelo Ball and Lonzo Ball. Both humble, level-headed guys with a pain-in-the-backside father - LaVarr Ball.
Vk1 Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 23 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Actually they were the only ones who picked wickets in the 4th test lol Fast bowlers were the ones that went missing. You can get rid of THakur and include Kuldeep. Jadeja is a pure batsman in SENA. Good fast bowlers can pick wickets inside 30 overs and then again with new ball after 80.. so team's score might be restricted to 450.. with spinners there is no guarantee. Jadeja got lot of cheap wickets in the last match.
Lord Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 On 7/29/2025 at 8:54 PM, Vk1 said: Not sure what do we gain by having both Sundar and Jadeja in same 11 in SENA. We can never pick 20 wickets. We just saved a Test with that still this thanklessness. Wickets can be picked by having good pacers plus Kuldeep Gollum 1
vvvslaxman Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 2 hours ago, Vk1 said: Good fast bowlers can pick wickets inside 30 overs and then again with new ball after 80.. so team's score might be restricted to 450.. with spinners there is no guarantee. Jadeja got lot of cheap wickets in the last match. Except we don't have good fast bowlers bar Bumrah, Siraj, Akash.
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