Why can't , or don't, we bat like this

[Sooda]

 Take initiative, throw bowlers off their lengths, lbw out of equation do big extent because batsmen are walking down to bowlers. Not waiting for jaffas

 

Okay, one major proviso is the height and bounce of, and fuller length maybe that English bowlers bowl 

 

But our bats have shown in other formats, they are capable 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 1, 2025 by Sooda

[Chakdephatte]

It's true that everyone can't do that. Even in the English team, only Brook and Duckett consistently do that. Crawley, Stokes, Pope average in the 30s and Root acts as the consolidator. 

 

India can try it against weaker sides at start. Jaiswal and Pant are good bazballers. But still the majority of batsmen KL, Jadeja, Washi, or even contenders like Sai, Padikkal, Jurel are not made for bazball style. 

 

Probably something like- 

 

Jaiswal 

 

Mhatre

 

Karun

 

Gill (Consolidator) 

 

Pant 

 

Jadeja (Anchor) 

 

Nitish 

 

 

 

5 strokemakers and two anchors. But we don't have replacements if one gets injured. 

Edited August 1, 2025 by Chakdephatte

[maniac]

1 minute ago, Chakdephatte said:

It's true that everyone can't do that. Even in the English team, only Brook and Duckett consistently do that. Crawley, Stokes, Pope average in the 30s and Root acts as the consolidator. 

 

India can try it against weaker sides at start. Jaiswal and Pant are good bazballers. But still the majority of batsmen KL, Jadeja, Washi, or even contenders like Sai, Padikkal, Jurel are not made for bazball style. 

The point is even Root and Pope who are more orthodox are more stroke makers than most Indian batsmen.

 

also Karun for all his mediocrity and flaws is not a tuk tuk, he plays shots in his zone. He is not a stroke less wonder.

 

even the lower order has boring tuk tuks.

[Number]

Because by batting like this Crawley's average is 30. If any Indian batsman had such poor returns people will stone his house.

[putrevus]

Nonsense , they have tolerated Rahul's batting avg of 33 for a decade.

 

 

[rollingstoned]

Did you not see the way we defeated Bang in one of the tests here last year? Or when we batted at a faster rate than England in the whole series last year in India?

[Adamant]

Yeah right, if this method was so successful England would have qualified for WTC or even won one ashes in home conditions let alone away.

[vvvslaxman]

We scored 280 runs in 34 overs against Bangladesh. Come on guys we do that. But you cannot do this in every conditions and every opposition. Many of the current players are on their first tour to England

 

Karun Nair first tour

Jaiswal first tour

Sai first series

Jurel first tour

 

Not even steve smith batted like this when Crawley was pummelling Australian bowling with his 189.

[vvvslaxman]

21 minutes ago, rollingstoned said:

Did you not see the way we defeated Bang in one of the tests here last year? Or when we batted at a faster rate than England in the whole series last year in India?

Suddenly we are sucking up to ENgladn's bazball facade. They do that because they  are allowed to do that. THey don't have good defense. That is the team philosophy. Failure will be forgiven within the set up. There was so much criticism about Crawley after first 3 tests. THey persisted with him . WIll Indian team back players who take risks and get out. Our fans will go after the family members of players. We have to be realistic.

[vvvslaxman]

53 minutes ago, maniac said:

The point is even Root and Pope who are more orthodox are more stroke makers than most Indian batsmen.

 

also Karun for all his mediocrity and flaws is not a tuk tuk, he plays shots in his zone. He is not a stroke less wonder.

 

even the lower order has boring tuk tuks.

 

If i am right Sundar lost his wicket both times when he took on the deep fielder. Otherwise looked ungetouttable. If you have solid defense and you can bat all day you prefer that. English players don't have good defense. That is why they failed to survive even for 103 overs against a bumrahless attack. THey were forced to survive because task was too big.

[Number]

50 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Nonsense , they have tolerated Rahul's batting avg of 33 for a decade.

 

 

Don't know how many times KL has been dropped, made comebacks.

Edited August 1, 2025 by Number

[putrevus]

7 minutes ago, Number said:

Don't know how many times KL has been dropped, made comebacks.

Crawley was dropped too, he is not playing his 50 odd tests in a row.

 

Nobody got more chances than Rahul for his meagre returns.Rahul Dravid made his mission to stick his guy any way possible in all formats.

 

Crawley only got chances in one format, India has tolerated Rahul losing matches in all formats for a decade.

Edited August 1, 2025 by putrevus

[tweaker]

We can if we select Sarfaraz instead of Sai and Karun.

[Gollum]

I will reserve my judgement till after Ashes. If their approach can unsettle the greatest bowling unit of the modern era, they'll change many minds.

Edited August 1, 2025 by Gollum

[coffee_rules]

Del

Edited August 1, 2025 by coffee_rules

[adi B]

45 minutes ago, Gollum said:

I will reserve my judgement till after Ashes. If their approach can unsettle the greatest bowling unit of the modern era, they'll change many minds.

But bazball failed badly in India after a couple of tests .

Whenever they found it tough ,they gave up on bazball and started playing defensively, except Crawley!

[coffee_rules]

Jaiswal did and almost perished

[Lord]

We do much better at home. But no one values that 

[vvvslaxman]

4 hours ago, adi B said:

But bazball failed badly in India after a couple of tests .

Whenever they found it tough ,they gave up on bazball and started playing defensively, except Crawley!

Even here it perished. They were roundly thrashed in the 2nd test.  India's century obsession gave them a game on platter. Also two injuries to Pant really put us on the backfoot. Besides. they were not really playing bazball at Lords. THey took the slow burn approach for the best part. We effectively killed the bazball in the 2nd test.

[Nikhil_cric]

No need to copy English Top 3. Pope and Crawley are mediocre. Duckett is really good though.