mishra Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 You can either play with 5 specialist bowler or with 6 specialist batsman+Keeper. Ojha or Rahul should be keeping, fr me its Ojha till we find a prototype MSD. Also we need to choose between Mishraji Jaddu and Ashwin who we want to play depending on opposition and pitch.
Austin 3:!6 Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 I am very concerned about our batting OVERALL...not only overseas. We struggled against SA at home as well. No longer we are producing class batsmen like fab 5 days. Bar Kohli, most batters are dud.
Mosher Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said: I am very concerned about our batting OVERALL...not only overseas. We struggled against SA at home as well. No longer we are producing class batsmen like fab 5 days. Bar Kohli, most batters are dud. They might not be as good as the fab 5 but Rahane and Vijay are duds??? express bowling 1
express bowling Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 We have 3 very good test batsmen in Kohli, Rahane and Vijay. They have done well all over the world and have the will to win test matches. Playing 5 batsmen, having a keeper who is not a consistent performer with the bat and having tailenders who have a tendency of getting out quickly in succession, is making our batting lineup lack depth. We desperately need a proper keeper-batsman. In the longer run, it would be ideal if Rahul can work hard on his keeping and can become a test-level keeper. As of now he is not a dependable keeper at all. We need to find or develop a proper all-rounder who can bat at no.6 and is a proper bowler too. Ashwin practicing his batting a lot and improving his consistency maybe a temporary solution till we find someone else. Other bowlers will have to practice their batting too if we want to play 5 batters. Mosher 1
Bigg Brother Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 No matter how good Ashwin plays in this innings,it is not the long team solution when he is the best bowler of team..Its not like that India havent any option other than Saha...Saha will have to deliever today.
velu Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 24 minutes ago, Viper said: No wonder why he remembers you when you were gone... Poor kid having a nightmare that he sees ya everywhere and he calls everyone velu.. Legend our relationship pans across various forums deep down MTC is a nice guy who is easily troll able Rasgulla 1
express bowling Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 Whenever Ashwin bats for any length of time in a test match, it becomes quite clear that he has the talent to be a proper batsman. He plays with a straight bat, can handle bounce and is not unusually hurried by pace. Looks comfortable and relaxed and always plays at a brisk pace which is important if the team is looking to win test matches. Guys like Rohit and Dhawan often look more circumspect than Ashwin in a test match while batting. If Ash can practice his batting regularly then we may have a proper all-rounder in our test team.
maniac Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 Am I the only one who likes to watch Ashwin bat? Very elegant and a good stroke player. But yes not that reliable yet to bat at No6 even though the talent is obviously there.
velu Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 39 minutes ago, maniac said: Am I the only one who likes to watch Ashwin bat? Very elegant and a good stroke player. But yes not that reliable yet to bat at No6 even though the talent is obviously there. ashwin bats like some improved version of vvs
sandeep Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 Ashwin's batting well, but Windies are letting him. 5 batsmen against better opposition will get exposed. We definitely need a better batting keeper, and a test class bowler who can bat a bit apart from Ashwin. But for this opposition and this wicket, this mix should be good enough to win easy. IF Saha has a poor series with the bat, I dont know why a Dinesh Karthik shouldn't be re-considered.
maniac Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 Just now, sandeep said: Ashwin's batting well, but Windies are letting him. 5 batsmen against better opposition will get exposed. We definitely need a better batting keeper, and a test class bowler who can bat a bit apart from Ashwin. But for this opposition and this wicket, this mix should be good enough to win easy. IF Saha has a poor series with the bat, I dont know why a Dinesh Karthik shouldn't be re-considered. A keeper who can bat is always a bonus.....With the limited ability of our bowling to get 20 wickets on most occasions,it is ideal to have a good keeper and what ever runs he makes as a bonus. Karthik is a very poor keeper and so is Pappu Patel who is a very talented batsman too.
sandeep Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 16 minutes ago, maniac said: A keeper who can bat is always a bonus.....With the limited ability of our bowling to get 20 wickets on most occasions,it is ideal to have a good keeper and what ever runs he makes as a bonus. Karthik is a very poor keeper and so is Pappu Patel who is a very talented batsman too. I dont think Karthik is that poor a keeper. Pappu definitely was, and has improved a bit from all accounts, but I think he hardly keeps for FC now. So that ship has sailed. But we can get a year or 2 out of Karthik/Ojha if Saha doesn't step up. There's no need to go scraping the youth bucket if nobody's ready for that international level... Vilander 1
jusarrived Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, sandeep said: I dont think Karthik is that poor a keeper. Pappu definitely was, and has improved a bit from all accounts, but I think he hardly keeps for FC now. So that ship has sailed. But we can get a year or 2 out of Karthik/Ojha if Saha doesn't step up. There's no need to go scraping the youth bucket if nobody's ready for that international level... DK's keeping is like his batting , inconsistent though he can be brilliant both with the bat and ball . His batting had so much potential , he has so much time playing his shots , technique as good as anyone ..but lets him self and the team down way too often ..mentally very weak I guess
jusarrived Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 But yes , if I had to pick between Ojha/Karthik/Saha ..DK anyday !! sandeep 1
beetle Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 1 hour ago, maniac said: Am I the only one who likes to watch Ashwin bat? Very elegant and a good stroke player. But yes not that reliable yet to bat at No6 even though the talent is obviously there. In tests, Ashwin seems to look more reliable then some of our front line batters .
vvvslaxman Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 Against WI he is definitely coming alive. velu 1
express bowling Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 Kumble made the tailenders practice batting ....seems to be yielding results with Ashwin 100+ , Mishra 50+ and Shami tonking 6s. velu and New guy 2
Bleed-Blue Posted July 22, 2016 Posted July 22, 2016 I do feel Ashwin was batting to low before when he was at batting at 8, he is a quality batsmen, i think he will thrive under the extra responsibilty. express bowling 1
Adi_91 Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 The way Saha batted today and before, making Ashwin bat at no 6 was a masterstroke. Even Jeffrey Dujon made that comment while on commentary that Ashwin looks a more confident batsman than Saha.
Temujin Khaghan Posted July 23, 2016 Posted July 23, 2016 i loved how saha was put in his place and made to bat below ashwin... dhoni always made ashwin bat below morons like jadeja i feel ashwin will end his career as a better test batsman than kapil dev and dhoni
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