gakgupta Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) May be it's too early to say that but i have started seeing the signs from 3rd test (against Nz). Pitch certainly helped pace bowlers in the first ODI but there were several occasions in the past where he didn't took advantage of that.... Even his fielding was top class.....i get the feeling that he is enjoying the game of cricket more now than ever before. If he discovers himself, he can be a amazing bowler Edited March 28, 2017 by rkt.india sandeep, tweaker, Mosher and 2 others 5
express bowling Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 As I had posted in the Speed and performance Thread....the commentators were showcasing the change in bowling action of Umesh Yadav which is resulting in more accuracy. He is now looking in the direction of the stumps at the point of delivery instead of his head falling away. Yadav has been bowling much more accurately from the South Africa test series 2015. I had posted a list of his improved ER ( Economy Rate ) in test matches starting from that series too. He has to improve his bouncer though and increase its frequency too. Also, while bowling inswingers, he is often targeting the leg stump and he should change that to targeting the top of off stump. If he wants to bowl at the death then his yorkers need improvement. This is how he has fared in tests starting from the SA series 2015. Bowling average of 27 in this period now compared to 36 overall. Career averages Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10 unfiltered 21 40 566.0 100 2184 60 5/93 7/103 36.40 3.85 56.6 1 0 Profile filtered 6 12 137.0 46 333 12 4/41 5/41 27.75 2.43 68.5 0 0 Match by match list Overs Mdns Runs Wkts Econ Ave SR Opposition Ground Start Date 9.0 1 19 0 2.11 - - v South Africa Mohali 5 Nov 2015 Test # 2186 33.0 19 41 5 1.24 8.20 39.6 v South Africa Delhi 3 Dec 2015 Test # 2191 31.0 12 75 5 2.41 15.00 37.2 v West Indies North Sound 21 Jul 2016 Test # 2207 18.0 3 74 0 4.11 - - v West Indies Kingston 30 Jul 2016 Test # 2211 23.0 6 56 1 2.43 56.00 138.0 v New Zealand Kanpur 22 Sep 2016 Test # 2221 23.0 5 68 1 2.95 68.00 138.0 v New Zealand Indore 8 Oct 2016 Test # 2223 http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/376116.html?class=1;spanmax1=17+Oct+2016;spanmin1=17+Oct+2015;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bowling;view=match If he can sustain his accuracy, it will be great news for Indian cricket as Umesh has the pace and movement. Lannister, G_B_, Mosher and 3 others 6
tweaker Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 The success of Pandya ' s bowling will put more pressure on Umesh when Shami ,Bhubaneshwar & Ishant returns. Umesh will have to make use of this odi series to cement his place in the odi squad. express bowling and velu 2
MechEng Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 He still bowls 140+, seven years after his debut. Breaking the norm that Indian fast bowlers lose pace 2 years after their debut. tweaker, Mosher and nevada 3
Mosher Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) Its good that Umesh has improved his accuracy. But Shami, Bumrah and BK are much better than Umesh in ODI's and are our frontline pacers. Umesh should only be selected when other pacers are injured. Umesh should be playing test matches for now. Edited October 18, 2016 by Mosher tweaker, beetle and express bowling 3
express bowling Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 1 hour ago, MechEng said: He still bowls 140+, seven years after his debut. Breaking the norm that Indian fast bowlers lose pace 2 years after their debut. Even Ishant, Aaron and Shami are bowling 135 k to 150 k after 9 , 5 and 3 years in international cricket respectively. MechEng and Rightarmfast 2
express bowling Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Mosher said: Its good that Umesh has improved his accuracy. But Shami, Bumrah and BK are much better than Umesh in ODI's and are our frontline pacers. Umesh should only be selected when other pacers are injured. Umesh Yadav is still a test bowler and not ideal for ODIs.
Bleed-Blue Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 1 minute ago, express bowling said: Umesh Yadav is still a test bowler and not ideal for ODIs. Lets not forget Yadav played cruical roles and the last champions trophy and was our higghest wicket taker at the wc.
express bowling Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bleed-Blue said: Lets not forget Yadav played cruical roles and the last champions trophy and was our higghest wicket taker at the wc. Can you be a top ODI pacer without the ability to bowl yorkers with consistency ? His wicket taking ability was never in doubt but his consistency is. He will be brilliant in one ODI tournament and totally lost in the next two. Edited October 17, 2016 by express bowling Mosher 1
Bleed-Blue Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) 16 minutes ago, express bowling said: Can you be a top ODI pacer without the ability to bowl yorkers with consistency ? His wicket taking ability was never in doubt but his consistency is. He will be brilliant in one ODI tournament and totally lost in the next two. Yes because you dont have to bowl him at the the death all the time like steyn he has still done pretty well without a good yorker. Whilist i agree consistency is an issue, he has done well in 2 tournments which i value way more than bilateral series, so dont think u can say he will be lost. Edited October 17, 2016 by Bleed-Blue Mosher and tweaker 2
mishra Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, express bowling said: As I had posted in the Speed and performance Thread....the commentators were showcasing the change in bowling action of Umesh Yadav which is resulting in more accuracy. He is now looking in the direction of the stumps at the point of delivery instead of his head falling away. .. Never heard commies or noticed this about Umesh. Thought this is very basic thing a bowling coach will tell you. For young icfers who play cricket 1. Follow through to gain couple of miles in speed 2. Eyes should look at exact location where you want to land the ball at the time ball is being realeased from your grip. Edited October 17, 2016 by mishra tweaker and vishalvirsingh 2
express bowling Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Bleed-Blue said: Yes because you dont have to bowl him at the the death all the time like steyn he has still done pretty well without a good yorker. Whilist i agree consistency is an issue, he has done well in 2 tournments which i value way more than bilateral series, so dont think u can say he will be lost. Umesh was superb in WC 15, with 18 wickets from 8 matches at an average of 17.8 and ER of 4.9 In CT 13, he took 4 wickets from 5 matches at an average of 49 and ER of 5.5. After the WC, he has averaged 45 , 41 and 49 in the 3 series he has played with ERs of 6.8 to 7.5. This is where he needs to improve in terms of realizing his potential with more consistency. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/376116.html?class=2;template=results;type=bowling;view=series He needs to hold on to his new found accuracy and practice bowling yorkers if he has to become a regular in ODIs. Edited October 17, 2016 by express bowling Lannister, Forever Indian, Mosher and 2 others 5
express bowling Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 14 minutes ago, mishra said: Never heard commies or noticed this about Umesh. Thought this is very basic thing a bowling coach will tell you. For young icfers who play cricket 1. Follow through to gain couple of miles in speed 2. Eyes should look at exact location where you want to land the ball at the time ball is being realeased from your grip. There are so many international cricketers who do not follow the basics of crciket
mishra Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 50 minutes ago, express bowling said: There are so many international cricketers who do not follow the basics of crciket Agree, but this is like cardinal sin of cricket bowling. Its akin to batsman not watching the ball at the time of impact to to bat. This should be fixed by coaches at school level only.
express bowling Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, mishra said: Agree, but this is like cardinal sin of cricket bowling. Its akin to batsman not watching the ball at the time of impact to to bat. This should be fixed by coaches at school level only. Just watch the WI batters and see how many times they do not watch the ball, especially while facing bouncers. mishra 1
vishalvirsingh Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 Some JAFFA's bowled by Umesh in recent times- Ball that got Latham LBW in the third Test match was a 145k ball and from around the wicket - kind of an unplayable ball to get one of the BEST New Zealand batter OUT..latham looks comfortable against indian Pacers and is scoring regularly against INDIA. Umesh bowled another JAFFA to Nesham , a bounce ball which missed a NICK. Recently he clean bowled West indian T 20 Captain Braithwaite in a test match of the first ball.. it was a Jaffa...very fast Yorker. these balls are some Rare deliveries that can get ANY Batsman in the world Out and that's why I have called them Umesh's Jaffa's. ONe bowl which I remember as a clear Jaffa from Sreesanth was when he got the Aouth African all rounder to nick the bouncer...I consider that as one of the most difficult balls bowled. even Ross Taylor got a ball which bounced from Good length to catch his snick. Still he continues to bowl some rubbish on the legstump- I still will prefer to keep him in the 11 ahead of Bhuvi or even Ishant. I loved the attack yesterday- bumrah umesh and hardik...all 3 r my favourites and dhwal sitting out. I could not believe my eyes seeing hardik bowling 144k... mishra and tweaker 2
vishalvirsingh Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 2 hours ago, express bowling said: Umesh Yadav is still a test bowler and not ideal for ODIs. though I agree that Umesh is a test bowler but an attacking pacer like umesh is most useful in ODI too. umesh could have got 3 wickets yesterday had jadhav held that easy catch- believing he taking 3 wickets in a 6 over spell.. he had actually finished the new Zealand innings in his first spell itself. pandya also got 3 wickets thanks to an unbelievable catch by Umesh- actually it was a hard hit and many fielders would not have tried. if William son, taylor and Guptill will fail - newzealand will surely loose. neesham southee latham and even Anderson wont win them ODI matches as they will give opportunities to get OUT. Umesh did perform well in an odi series against west indies too and even in his debut match he got some wickets due to SHEER PACE of 147k and 149k...he was tooo FAST
Tibarn Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 If we had a proper bowling coach, they could have fixed the technical issue in Umesh's run-up+delivery much earlier. He was our bowler with the most potential when he came in, yet they wasted so many years of his career before finding a glitch in his action? Mosher 1
Vilander Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 Umesh is also just aging. Like getting older.
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 Nope, would like to pass this judgement unless i see consistent perfomances from him. This is NZ side that has given up , i would like to see anyone quality or improvement against a challenging side and over a period of time. sandeep and sscomp32 2
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