mishra Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 10 hours ago, Viper said: It it start spinning when we play lol Messed up If England bat till tea. We may be just fine. Its the end of third and then fourth inning where we will see Messed up bit. Cos we will be batting fourth unless pith is designed to bring crampt to one English seamer. tweaker 1
SLICKR392 Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 6 hours ago, Asim said: remove turners and indian bowling attack becomes THIS... And Pakistan becomes this http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-south-africa-2010/engine/match/461572.html express bowling, Rasgulla, Lord and 1 other 4
Laaloo Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 Pitch is fine. Our shoddy fielding did us in. If we had held on to those catches, things would have been different. We need to come back strong tomorrow. Cant let them score over 425. tweaker, Mosher and Bigg Brother 3
Lord Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 16 minutes ago, SLICKR392 said: And Pakistan becomes this http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-south-africa-2010/engine/match/461572.html ?
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) IF this team plans to become a top side for many years, there shouldnt be pitch talk. I agree with home advantage but its not bad to be tested on diff surface at home once in a while. U need to have the exp of playing in diff conditions. Come overseas no curator will ask u how much u want the pitches to be dry. We are so use to playing on turners that a good batting wkt on day one is being questioned. 6 hours ago, sandeep said: Pitch is fine - traditional Indian pitch - batting friendly, the 1st couple of days. India better match England's batting in the 1st innings. I'm still hopeful of keeping Pommies below 425 - don't know how, but hopeful. Exactly this is a traditional wkt, we dropped 3 catches and thats the issue. 3 drops are way to much. So many full tosses, how does pitch come ion play when u give freebies like that Edited November 9, 2016 by Ankit_sharma03 Iconoclast and Mosher 2
kruiser Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 3 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said: Eh no. India wont win this test. England with the depth they have in batting will easily score 550 odd and either declare or all out. Then its a catching game for India. Play fantastic cricket to salage a draw or you will lose. The pitch will detoriate as well as the game progress. No way India winning this test. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk This is very plausible: Between Lunch and Tea on Day 2, England all out for 520 odd. End of day 2, India is 140/2 India Bats whole of day 3 and is all out around 500 early day 4. End of day 4, England all out 190 India needs roughly 230 to win the test on Day 5 tweaker 1
Iconoclast Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 11 hours ago, Asim said: remove turners and indian bowling attack becomes THIS... To be fair if they held on to their catches England would have been in a spot of bother. Overall it is a good pitch, assists seamers early on and should take spin by day 3 on. tweaker 1
YCCC Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 The proof will be at the end of the match, but if it turns out that it offers a big advantage to the team that wins the toss, or produces a tame draw, then it is not a good pitch. At least the Bangladesh dustbowls were consistent to both teams throughout the match
sandeep Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 The proof will be at the end of the match, but if it turns out that it offers a big advantage to the team that wins the toss, or produces a tame draw, then it is not a good pitch. At least the Bangladesh dustbowls were consistent to both teams throughout the match This pitch offers an advantage to the team batting first that can bat big. Are you claiming that you'd prefer to see tracks that turn a lot more all throughout?.
YCCC Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 Yes. Not so much that it becomes too bowler friendly, but it would be fair to both sides and make the toss less important. The match would be decided on who can bat better against spin and bowl spin the best.
sandeep Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 20 minutes ago, YCCC said: Yes. Not so much that it becomes too bowler friendly, but it would be fair to both sides and make the toss less important. The match would be decided on who can bat better against spin and bowl spin the best. Well that's an utopian thought but toss is a factor on most pitches. And its not like it gives you the game, you still have to make it count and bat big first up. It would be tough to come up with "designer" wickets that stay uniform. It would be interesting to convert the toss into an auction - i.e. teams can bid and counterbid for first choice with runs - i.e. maybe its worth spotting say, a 40 run lead in order to bat first on such a flat track. Would add a whole new dimension to a team's decision making.
fineleg Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 Does India have 4th Inn specialists to bat through last 4-5 sessions to eke a draw? That's what will matter from now. Gambhir (of old form), Dravid and Laxman were the capable ones. Who is gonna do it on day 4 and 5 now?
sandeep Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, fineleg said: Does India have 4th Inn specialists to bat through last 4-5 sessions to eke a draw? That's what will matter from now. Gambhir (of old form), Dravid and Laxman were the capable ones. Who is gonna do it on day 4 and 5 now? Gambo, M00Li, Chet - Rest are not the best at batting time.
YCCC Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 12 minutes ago, sandeep said: Well that's an utopian thought but toss is a factor on most pitches. And its not like it gives you the game, you still have to make it count and bat big first up. It would be tough to come up with "designer" wickets that stay uniform. It would be interesting to convert the toss into an auction - i.e. teams can bid and counterbid for first choice with runs - i.e. maybe its worth spotting say, a 40 run lead in order to bat first on such a flat track. Would add a whole new dimension to a team's decision making. Yes I do get what your saying, and you do still have to get the runs, or take the wickets if it's a green top, after winning the toss.
fineleg Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 2 hours ago, sandeep said: Gambo, M00Li, Chet - Rest are not the best at batting time. Yea those three. Problem is M. Vijay is kinda out-of-touch.
Laaloo Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 2 hours ago, fineleg said: Does India have 4th Inn specialists to bat through last 4-5 sessions to eke a draw? That's what will matter from now. Gambhir (of old form), Dravid and Laxman were the capable ones. Who is gonna do it on day 4 and 5 now? Step back from the ledge finey. It's 311-4 not 650-6. We still have a chance. sandeep 1
Sandeep99 Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Good Lord! This is a flaaaaaat pitch. Throwback to 2008-09 when India prepared these kind of pitches and secured draws... tweaker 1
Trichromatic Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 This is just poor bowling and fielding unit out there.
Bigg Brother Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 India was bowled out for 316 against NZ which was also a flat deck..Given the England bowling and batsmen's "aggressive" batting,I dont think we could have crossed 400 if batted first here..That is some excellent batting supported by rubbish fielding. tweaker 1
Asim Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 15 hours ago, SLICKR392 said: And Pakistan becomes this http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-south-africa-2010/engine/match/461572.html what was that mujey batata, I would've given u much better scorecards...
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