Hey MSK Prasad, learn from Pak selectors

[Austin 3:!6]

Say what you want but its very commendable the way Inzy & co (Pak selectors) giving chances to young players regularly. Their U19 world cup squad was atrocious with only 1 good player Shaheen Shah Afridi. They realized his potential and straight away drafted him into national side. They make no bones of it.

 

And here we are with our ignoramus selectors. In the same world cup, the likes of Shubhman Gill and Prithvi Shaw flared better than Afridi. But we choose to give more chances to Raina rather. The star of previous U19 world cup Rishabh Pant is still on the awaiting list. I am a huge Dhoni fan but what is he still doing in T20 team with no WC in sight? What happened to likes of Mavi, Nagarkotti etc? Lokesh Rahul forced his way back onto the team...else we would still have Rahane playing at no.4 for us in LOIs.

 

Indian selectors

[Suhaan]

Laughable selectors with zero iq level,what else can you expect from these clowns?we tend to rot players in domestics , either they burn out or they loose their natural flare

[velu]

and not to forget the heavy fines that padosi cricketers needs to pay if they cross the lakshman rekha drwan by pcb

[tweaker]

Lots of talented youngsters are waiting  & this selection committee is wasting time on tried & tested failures.

 

T20 is ideal format is try out youngsters like  Pant, Kishan, Khaleel, etc

[Rightarmfast]

MSK couldnt collect much catches as a wicketkeeper, neither could he score much runs while playing. He won't let this chance go away like his cricketing career, to collect money. The guy is a sell out. He  needs a bamboo shoved up the wrong end.. he is playing with the future of Indian cricket.

[Ankit_sharma03]

i wnt blame selectors alone, its the culture thats been developed in last few yrs which isnt even entirely wrong that u have to go through A teams 1st. Pant n sundar have been given chances. N to be honest u cnt throw in guys for the sake of it only ...they have to earn it as well . This time also chahar n krunal have been given chances instead of going back to dhawal n unadkat 

On other hand the regular going back to tried n tested failure is worth criticism .

 

When we compare it to pakistan, well its a bad a team n its has no option left and their 3 top players retired which has left gaps in team. So it the way KL rahul has been treated 

 

A team under re-building n well build unit will always have diff approach

Edited July 5, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03

[Ankit_sharma03]

even pak selectors have been heavily criticised for keep fawad out

Kuch yaha gaali padti, kuch waha bhi 

[asterix]

Dhoni as WK is an asset in the team. His stumpings are now at a different level... he compliments our spinners. Kuldeep would prefer Dhoni over any other WK. Dhoni on top of it also helps in field settings etc.

 

That said, there’s no justification if him, Raina, Rohit etc playing in Mickey Mouse T20 matches. Imagine the kind of performances Pant and company would’ve given on this tour.

 

But England tours are usually relaxing, holiday tours with families after gruelling IPL. And top, established players usually don’t like to miss it.

 

In all this the Indian selectors have probably no say. They are just rubber stamps.

 

[speedheat]

Cowards, just no spine to try youngsters even in the t20 format apart from selectors one more obstacle for youngsters is captain kohli and his love for seniors, somebody should tel him its  2018 and not 2008 ffs, raina dhoni in the team :facepalm: kohli and his wify are aware of garbage that is thrown on the road but cant cleanup garbage in his own team like raina, axar, dhoni

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22 minutes ago, asterix said:

Dhoni as WK is an asset in the team. His stumpings are now at a different level... he compliments our spinners. Kuldeep would prefer Dhoni over any other WK. Dhoni on top of it also helps in field settings etc.

That said, there’s no justification if him, Raina, Rohit etc playing in Mickey Mouse T20 matches. Imagine the kind of performances Pant and company would’ve given on this tour.

But England tours are usually relaxing, holiday tours with families after gruelling IPL. And top, established players usually don’t like to miss it.

In all this the Indian selectors have probably no say. They are just rubber stamp.

Msk Prasad,Sarandeep Singh,Gagan Khoda among them have played maximum of 15-20 games so they have no stature and 0 power to call the shots.

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25 minutes ago, asterix said:

Dhoni as WK is an asset in the team. His stumpings are now at a different level... he compliments our spinners. Kuldeep would prefer Dhoni over any other WK. Dhoni on top of it also helps in field settings etc.

That said, there’s no justification if him, Raina, Rohit etc playing in Mickey Mouse T20 matches. Imagine the kind of performances Pant and company would’ve given on this tour.

But England tours are usually relaxing, holiday tours with families after gruelling IPL. And top, established players usually don’t like to miss it.

In all this the Indian selectors have probably no say. They are just rubber stamp.

So they don't go to England for winning Dada?

[asterix]

So they don't go to England for winning Dada?

Winning is always good but usually they don’t bother too much if losing on England tours. The tour is primarily for relaxing and shopping branded products.

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4 minutes ago, asterix said:

Winning is always good but usually they don’t bother too much if losing on England tours. The tour is primarily for relaxing and shopping branded products.

Plus England is always about the process and not results .

[asterix]

Also it’s wrong to compare Pak & Indian selectors...

Pak selectors have backing of the board.

 

Indian contract A players have the backing of the board over selectors, managers & coaches...

 

Pakistan always tries out rookie unknown players depending upon their talent pool.

 

Indian talent pool is much bigger and more competitive. Also in Indian teams the Advertisers & sponsors too have their say which can’t definitively be said about Pak advertisers & sponsors.

 

There’s a reason why HaPa, KLR etc do too much show baazi. Any player having good portfolio of Advertisers puts enough pressure on BCCI & selectors to select the player.

 

Not heard of any Pak player management companies. India has multiple of them and they too influence selection (or non selection)...

 

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6 minutes ago, asterix said:

Also it’s wrong to compare Pak & Indian selectors...

Pak selectors have backing of the board.

 

Indian contract A players have the backing of the board over selectors, managers & coaches...

 

Pakistanistan always tries out rookie unknown players depending upon their talent pool.

 

Indian talent pool is much bigger and more competitive. Also in Indian teams the Advertisers & sponsors too have their say which can’t definitively be said about Pak advertisers & sponsors.

 

There’s a reason why HaPa, KLR etc do too much show baazi. Any player having good portfolio of Advertisers puts enough pressure on BCCI & selectors to select the player.

 

Not heard of any Pak player management companies. India has multiple of them and they too influence selection (or non selection)...

 

They carried Afridi in their team due to that reason.

[Khota]

Ranji then India A and then selection. You do well in India A you should be selected. Should not fast track anyone ever. Pakistan can do that as they dont have much batting talent. In India you have to go through these stages. Nothing wrong with that if done properly.

[wanted_desi]

16 minutes ago, Khota said:

Ranji then India A and then selection. You do well in India A you should be selected. Should not fast track anyone ever. Pakistan can do that as they dont have much batting talent. In India you have to go through these stages. Nothing wrong with that if done properly.

Rahane in ODIs, Pandey in T20s, Raina doesn't have much talent anymore to perform in ODIs and T20s. It is better to take risk with some youngsters than keep going back to these tested failures. Hell, even we were selecting Yuvraj till last year. That was such a waste of time. 

[prudent_kreeda]

24 minutes ago, Khota said:

Ranji then India A and then selection. You do well in India A you should be selected. Should not fast track anyone ever. Pakistan can do that as they dont have much batting talent. In India you have to go through these stages. Nothing wrong with that if done properly.

  But in this instance it was a  bowler who was fast tracked

[Cricket_Fan]

23 minutes ago, Khota said:

Ranji then India A and then selection. You do well in India A you should be selected. Should not fast track anyone ever. Pakistan can do that as they dont have much batting talent. In India you have to go through these stages. Nothing wrong with that if done properly.

This.There is a reason why Padosis get whitewashed even by Lankans at home.We have a process and people has to go through that and prove their mettle.

[S_pace]

Shaheen shah had some good first class spells and a good PSL and combined with u19 WC he was selected. It's not like that they just select anyone on potential alone they also a very similar process.