rtmohanlal Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 His record in AUS is absolutely stunning , especially for an opener. 482 runs in 8 inns @ 60.25 with 1 100 & 4 50s is a towering performance in every sense.It's just that he is 34+ years old.But has adequate experience to make up for it. When thinking about it, Sehwag comes into play. He was below par in all except AUS ,but in AUS his batting style suited perfectly.Can't it be the case with Vijay too???. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 No. Age is not on his side. Besides Prithvi shaw has announced himself. Unless they want to replace KL Rahul ,Vijay has not place at this point. Even if we discard Rahul, Dhawan we have Mayank Agarwal waiting. sandsaims, UrmiSinhaRay and Sgattick10 2 1 Link to comment
zen Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) What is this obsession with 4-5 years old records? Recent form should hold the key. In the last two years, Vijay is avg less than 40 iirc .... On current form i.e. performance in county, he can be considered in place of KL who is struggling .... However, the team management appears to be looking ahead so could prefer Agarwal, which is not a bad option either as talented youngsters have done well for Ind recently .... Instead of looking back, looking forward could be the better option, i.e. Shaw-Agarwal Edited October 17, 2018 by zen Sgattick10, Adi BB, sandsaims and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, UnknownGenius said: Of course he does. He was discarded very unfairly. He had two bad performances in England in the toughest batting conditions and got out to peaches that any batsman would have. Meanwhile Dhawan and KL got chance after chance because they are buddies with Kohli VJ buckled up and went on to score buckets of runs for Essex He has been India's best opener ever since Viru retired and should still be a top two choice for opener. He definitely deserves one more full series to add to that he is not yet 35. That is still ' far from being over age'. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/237095.html?class=1;home_or_away=2;opposition=2;template=results;type=batting;view=innings this by any stretch is brilliant consistant performance.Hope the team management take note of this.His vast experience of playing in SENA too can come handy. I think he is very vital to India's chances in AUS. His experience & fearless approach of young Shaw can be very handy for India , it seems. Facing the deadly duo of Broad-Anderson in one of his moderate zones(ENG) in a very bowler friendly series is entirely different from being in his comfort zone , i feel. He deserves at the least 1st test. Link to comment
diga Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 This farewell business is irritating... Dhoni wants to play till eternity, Vijay deserves a chance of a final test. .yada yada yada We just need to play to win. If it's Vijay who gives a better chance of winning, then so be it. saik, beetle, Adi BB and 5 others 2 1 5 Link to comment
Number Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 His 144 at Brisbane against Starc, Hazlewood and Johnson is one of the best innings by an Indian batsman in recent times. I am also against the idea of having 2 rookie openers for Australia tour. Vijay should open at Adelaide. Thereafter we can see if he still has it. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 47 minutes ago, Number said: His 144 at Brisbane against Starc, Hazlewood and Johnson is one of the best innings by an Indian batsman in recent times. I am also against the idea of having 2 rookie openers for Australia tour. Vijay should open at Adelaide. Thereafter we can see if he still has it. Rahul isnt a rookie. He also has a 100 in Aus. UrmiSinhaRay, Switchblade and sandsaims 2 1 Link to comment
nevada Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Ageing sportsmen can decline irreversibly in just 1-2 seasons. Four years ago is way back in the past. That being said, management seemed to be in a hurry to get rid of him and dumped him 1-2 games earlier than one would have expected. 34 is too old for them but 37 and consistently pathetic in a young men's format seems to be just fine. Sgattick10 and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Adi BB Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 As much as I like Murli as a test batsman but his eye hand coordination has deteriorated and his stupid pokes haven't helped his cause .Shaw has earned the opening spot at least for the first 2 test UrmiSinhaRay and sandsaims 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 We have to play to win in Australia this time. Best chance ever with their weakened side. Shaw is a certainty as one of the openers, given his current form. Choose the other opener who has the best chance of succeeding in Australia. Forget favourities, regionalism, past records, farewells and whether a player got what he deserves in the past. Just choose those players who seem like they can actually win it for Team India. The captain and coaches do get a good idea observing how players look in the nets and how their mindset seem like. If that other opener is Rahul, so be it. If that other opener is Vijay, so be it. If that other opener is Mayank, so be it. The A-team tour to NZ may give us some idea about current ability, form and mindset too. UrmiSinhaRay, AuxiliA and Sgattick10 1 2 Link to comment
goose Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 thou shall never forget.... there was an indian player with long hair he used to bat with some flair his name rhymes with bee jay he plays like an ashtray and today the cu%t bagged a pair UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 i don't think 2 rookies would help in a country like AUS where the mental aspect comes into play more than any where else. So to partner Shaw, Mayank is not adequate. Also don't think Rahul is the option. From what have been till now, he performs once in a blue moon whether it be in Asia or non Asia. That being the case a proven customer like Vijay having both experience of every kind in SENA & wonderful track record would have to be the most fit candidate.Agreed that he was completely offf in ENG in the 4 inns he played in. But he has been performing very poorly in ENG till that point. But in AUS it has not been the case. 6 inns of 25+ out of 8 inns at 60+ avg: with 0 not outs shows there is more chance of Vijay succeeding than failing in the coming series too. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 He doesn't. He was looking lost in South Africa and England. It didn't seem like he had any confidence left in him. UrmiSinhaRay and sandsaims 2 Link to comment
neel roy Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I would go with Vijay Rahul Shaw..Hard for Mayank..Vijay in Lords test got out to unplayable deliveries..whereas Rahuul got out in same way again and again..because Kohli is in love with KL no chance he will be dropped... UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 what ever it be , i would prefer Vijay over Rahul any time. Any way, even if Rahul succeeds a bit, it would be in 3 out of 8 inns at max, and in the process would avg: 40 at max: . That, Murali Vijay can easily provide. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, wanted_desi said: He doesn't. He was looking lost in South Africa and England. It didn't seem like he had any confidence left in him. Whatever people say, I never had anyconfidence in him. If anyone watches his performances, He will see that in 2011, He wasnt better than Mukund and All his innings in England were Pakistanesque fluke. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 45 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said: what ever it be , i would prefer Vijay over Rahul any time. Any way, even if Rahul succeeds a bit, it would be in 3 out of 8 inns at max, and in the process would avg: 40 at max: . That, Murali Vijay can easily provide. So why not let Rahul play who is younger and will learn instead of Vijay who is on his last legs in international career. Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 4 hours ago, rkt.india said: So why not let Rahul play who is younger and will learn instead of Vijay who is on his last legs in international career. strongly feel Vijay can perform 'a bit more at the least' than Rahul . Scoring 482 runs in 8 inns @ Avg: of 60+ ,that too opening the inns with 5 50+ scores is a towering performance by any yardstick.Even if he performs at 75% efficiency, he can still avg: 45 which would be so advantageous for the team. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
kohli Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 21 minutes ago, UnknownGenius said: ok captain, what about your buddy Dhawan? Is he also finish? Or he gets more chance ebcause you are close to him? Dhwan is useless in test ,but Vijay is massive overrated.he had 2 year purple patch. Link to comment
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