WeStMiDz Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 So the article mentions a bias for KL Rahul. Yet for months on here people were crying that Kohli hates Rahul and won't give him a chance. Make your mind up. Link to comment
Nonbeliever Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 faction having the blessings of dhongi baba will eventually win. Link to comment
Pollack Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cricketics said: So what the heck you want, everyone here on ICF wants Kohli to give captaincy to someone else. Everyone also here wants Shastri to be sacked because he looks utter BS with the interviews he gives and seems to be better suited for commentary than help Indian team, but you seem to try to start a topic, intact many topics but not have a solution and are kind of suggesting that we need to stick with Shastri and just leave out Kohli. You sir are confused. Shastri needs to go too now. If anything all of your posts are confused. He is clear in his viewpoint about power being entirely concentrated in the hands of captain. sergio04 and maniac 2 Link to comment
maniac Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Cricketics said: So what the heck you want, everyone here on ICF wants Kohli to give captaincy to someone else. Everyone also here wants Shastri to be sacked because he looks utter BS with the interviews he gives and seems to be better suited for commentary than help Indian team, but you seem to try to start a topic, intact many topics but not have a solution and are kind of suggesting that we need to stick with Shastri and just leave out Kohli. You sir are confused. Shastri needs to go too now. No both need to go. Kohli the captain only of course duh. India was never a coach or team mgmnt centric team like England However first we need to figure out where the power centre lies. back in the day it was BCCI who was the boss. even Sachin,Kumble,Dravid,Ganguly were not bigger than that. They all lost captaincy after BCCI intervened except may be Kumble who retired. Then the power centre was with Dhoni on cricket related affairs with BCCI (Seeni Mama) being the ultimate authority. Right now there is no BCCI. Coach is a dummy, so the power lies with the captain. Since this captain faield.You need to bring in a captain who makes the right decisions. As far as coach goes, our coaches have always been the guys who work well in the background like Wright, Kirsten and dare I say Fletcher. Simple get a captain who calls the right shots (in the current environment) and bring a coach who can work with the team on a cricketing level. Not a guy who is drunk and is there to talk big and walk around with alcohol bottles all over town. Also have a back up plan and groom the next captain like England did with Root or Nzl with Williamson. India did that with Kohli too but it didn't work so can't blame Indian management there. Real McCoy 1 Link to comment
Cricketics Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, maniac said: Simple get a captain who calls the right shots (in the current environment) and bring a coach who can work with the team on a cricketing level. Not a guy who is drunk and is there to talk big and walk around with alcohol bottles all over town. I have been always a fan of Tom Moody and in front of gore guys, our captains stay grounded for some reason and probably have more respect to hear their opinion and understand the logic as our captains get different opinion from an overseas coach then they will get from someone who has played for India, like Shastri did. Anyways, next World Cup is in India, we might stick to some Indian coach now. Wish Dravid could take up role as a coach and can groom some younger guy as captain. Link to comment
maniac Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Cricketics said: I have been always a fan of Tom Moody and in front of gore guys, our captains stay grounded for some reason and probably have more respect to hear their opinion and understand the logic as our captains get different opinion from an overseas coach then they will get from someone who has played for India, like Shastri did. Anyways, next World Cup is in India, we might stick to some Indian coach now. Wish Dravid could take up role as a coach and can groom some younger guy as captain. I still don't get it. You want Kohli to stay or go? itna ghooma phira ke kyon bol rahe ho? Link to comment
Stuge Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 24 minutes ago, Cricketics said: I don't blame Kumble just alone. I blame all. It's part of management too right? If we don't blame management, they will continue to be yes man and India will keep getting screwed. They are not their just to collect paychecks, we want improvement, or else fire them. Similarly, here too Shastri needs to be blamed along with Captain Kohli. It's a joint decision by captain and coach, so both need to be blamed. Stop bringing Kumble here and drift away from the topic. Kohli did all sorts of r***i rona to bring Shastri .He wanted Yes man more than anything else.Don't go by Kohli's WC image of being soft as dove ...He is still stubborn as mule and will keep making India lose as long as we have him at helm. Bhaiyya, Adorable Fan, Pollack and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment
asterix Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) IMO, WC2019 was the milestone in the “process” to not make any changes. The selectors panel is anyway completing its term... I’m expecting BCCI to make changes now. Kohli and Shastri will be on notice now... I hope BCCI make a technical committee to analyse the WC performance, make a report and suggest future course of action... Its very important to remove the Bollywood influence on Indian Captaincy role... Edited July 12, 2019 by asterix Real McCoy, shami_123, maniac and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Cricketics Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, maniac said: I still don't get it. You want Kohli to stay or go? itna ghooma phira ke kyon bol rahe ho? Stop over reacting. Kohli has to go, I have created the whole contradiction thread on him.. Shastri has to go too. And they might as well take Bangar with them. Real McCoy 1 Link to comment
-Robin- Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cricketics said: I have been always a fan of Tom Moody and in front of gore guys, our captains stay grounded for some reason and probably have more respect to hear their opinion and understand the logic as our captains get different opinion from an overseas coach then they will get from someone who has played for India, like Shastri did. Anyways, next World Cup is in India, we might stick to some Indian coach now. Wish Dravid could take up role as a coach and can groom some younger guy as captain. After Kumble fiasco Dravid or any self respect player wont dare to coach india as long as Kohli is there maniac, Real McCoy, shami_123 and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Such nonsense creep up when team looses. If such was the case it wud have been evident like recently it was evident with KKR. IF anything i admire about this team is the respect they have for each other Nonbeliever 1 Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 On 12/24/2018 at 4:48 PM, Trichromatic said: KL Rahul joined cornerstone in late 2017. Before joining cornerstone, he was averaging 45-46 in 20 matches and yet there was uncertainity about his place in team. After joining cornerstone - averaging 22 in 12 matches and is a regular now. @jalebi_bhai @Malcolm Merlyn 49 minutes ago, WeStMiDz said: So the article mentions a bias for KL Rahul. Yet for months on here people were crying that Kohli hates Rahul and won't give him a chance. Make your mind up. Look at the above quote. KL Rahul was very good in tests and not a regular for initial few years, then joined Bunty's agency and has been a regular since despite poor performance. nevada and GoldenSun 2 Link to comment
vijay50 Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 So all you need to do to stay in this team is join Bunty agency. Poor performance acceptable. * this . shami_123 and Real McCoy 1 1 Link to comment
WC2011INDIA Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) Did Rahane piss off bunty? Cuz wasn't he part of that agency? Edited July 12, 2019 by asterix Cricketics and Lannister 2 Link to comment
Nonbeliever Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 32 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Such nonsense creep up when team looses. If such was the case it wud have been evident like recently it was evident with KKR. IF anything i admire about this team is the respect they have for each other Respect Forever Indian and Laaloo 2 Link to comment
vijay50 Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 We need a good selector like Vengsarkar back. He ended Ganguly and Dravids one day career and gave us Kohli. He is not afraid to take tough decisions helperononline and prasen82 2 Link to comment
WC2011INDIA Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, vijay50 said: We need a good selector like Vengsarkar back. He ended Ganguly and Dravids one day career and gave us Kohli. He is not afraid to take tough decisions No thanks. Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 There is no split in the team. It would more of like 4/5 players are cheating on their spouses with team mates. I can see that happening. Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
Reddysaab Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 fire kohli from LOI captaincy and we will once again start winning tournaments. but kohli is such a mental fuker that he might throw a hissy fit and threaten suicide , so BCCI dont wana upset the little kid Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 32 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said: Respect N who doesnt respect anyone ???? Do let me knw Link to comment
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