Shreyas iyer- terrible technique

[King Tendulkar]

On 10/12/2017 at 2:28 PM, cowboysfan said:

I am extremely disappointed.I know 1 innings doesn't define a batsman but he can't play with this technique especially abroad.he has a unnatural bat lift and terrible footwork.he tries to get to the pitch of the ball but fails a lot.any slight seam movement and he is a sitting duck.

By the way nothing wrong with his back lift aspect . He has very modern coaches way . In that just before ball is released cocks his wrist and bat goes up .

 

this has a few advantages . Firstly it provides a form of trigger movement with bat going up . Plus this also greats big bat swing to come down and ping ball . This cock of wrists and bat goes up creates massive back lift which means big revs when connect .

 

high back lift common among big players . Ponting , yuvraj and Lara examples of this 

 

so purely in terms of back lift aspect no technical issues 

[cowboysfan]

1 hour ago, King Tendulkar said:

By the way nothing wrong with his back lift aspect . He has very modern coaches way . In that just before ball is released cocks his wrist and bat goes up .

 

this has a few advantages . Firstly it provides a form of trigger movement with bat going up . Plus this also greats big bat swing to come down and ping ball . This cock of wrists and bat goes up creates massive back lift which means big revs when connect .

 

high back lift common among big players . Ponting , yuvraj and Lara examples of this 

 

so purely in terms of back lift aspect no technical issues 

His feet aren't good enough for that, it's the reason he was having massive problems with seaming deliveries.

[King Tendulkar]

16 minutes ago, cowboysfan said:

His feet aren't good enough for that, it's the reason he was having massive problems with seaming deliveries.

I was talking about purely on his back lift nothing wrong with it . Very modern way doing it . 

[rkt.india]

8 hours ago, cowboysfan said:

His feet aren't good enough for that, it's the reason he was having massive problems with seaming deliveries.

foot movement or not, ever batsmen faces problem when ball seams unpredictably both ways. he has scored runs on some of the greenest pitches in domestic cricket. You dont judge a batsman or a bowler on a minefield.

Edited December 15, 2017 by rkt.india

[Chakdephatte]

I was searching for Iyer on Google and stumbled upon this. That's how I discovered ICF.

 

@cowboysfan, @vvvslaxman, how has he evolved?

Edited February 26, 2022 by Chakdephatte

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, Chakdephatte said:

I was searching for Iyer on Google and stumbled upon this. That's how I discovered ICF.

 

@cowboysfan, @vvvslaxman, how did he evolved?

 

He is a mentally tough guy. He can weather the storm and on a good day can play an innings like this. Does he have limitations? Definitely. But he somehow  survives and scores. Still limited in some areas.  It comes down what he brings to the table as overall package.

[maniac]

Where is KL Rahul when we need him to come out and say technique is overrated?

 

Having said that who cares about technique Iyer has the swag of Viv Richards and the batting style of Kevin Pietersen 

[Chakdephatte]

6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

He is a mentally tough guy. He can weather the storm and on a good day can play an innings like this. Does he have limitations? Definitely. But he somehow  survives and scores. Still limited in some areas.  It comes down what he brings to the table as overall package.

 

From a technical P. O. V. How is he compared to then? How he improved his pace range?

[Majestic]

Have been saying it from a while, he is the closest to a solution of India's biggest problem of recovering after losing 2 or 3 wickets down early. The game awareness that he has got is excellent.

 

Technical weaknesses are overrated. The more you play you ultimately fix it, at this level what matters more is whether you are mentally up for it.

 

Having great range of shots and unreal ability is not really a problem for India especially with guys like Surya, Pant and Rahul in mix and then the likes of D Chahar down the order too as long as the said batsman has shown that he can smack at 130+ strike rate.

 

Edited February 26, 2022 by Majestic

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said:

 

From a technical P. O. V. How is he compared to then? How he improved his pace range?

 

Not much difference. He can survive against good pace unless it is a length ball, and murder the other bowlers. Later on attack even the better bowlers. Unfortunately  we couldn't see his game against leg spin. A slight weakness there.

[Chakdephatte]

1 minute ago, Majestic said:

Have been saying it from a while, he is the closest to a solution of India's biggest problem of recovering after losing 2 or 3 wickets down early. The game awareness that he has got is excellent.

 

Technical weaknesses are overrated. The more you play you ultimately fix it, at this level what matters more is whether you are mentally up for it.

 

Scoring fast is not really a problem for India especially with guys like Surya, Pant and Rahul in mix and then the likes of D Chahar down the order too.

 

Forget about now, he could have been our no.4 even in 19 World Cup. Looked positive in only two series he got then. Those stupid selectors tried Rahane-Rayudu-Yuvraj-Iyer for this position, all of them suceeded. And they ended up with Vijay Shankar out of nowhere. Even Jadhav was great for a while.

[Majestic]

59 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said:

 

Forget about now, he could have been our no.4 even in 19 World Cup. Looked positive in only two series he got then. Those stupid selectors tried Rahane-Rayudu-Yuvraj-Iyer for this position, all of them suceeded. And they ended up with Vijay Shankar out of nowhere. Even Jadhav was great for a while.

In 19 World Cup not sure if having him would have worked then because he would have technical deficiencies and also a complete rookie to expect him to build inning at 6/3 in a knockout game.

 

Now, we can expect him to do that, whether he does it or not only time will tell.

Edited February 26, 2022 by Majestic

[SRT100]

3 hours ago, Majestic said:

In 19 World Cup not sure if having him would have worked then because he would have technical deficiencies and also a complete rookie to expect him to build inning at 6/3 in a knockout game.

 

Now, we can expect him to do that, whether he does it or not only time will tell.

If India go into any ICC final with Hitman, KL and Kohli at 1,2 and 3, then 6/3 is a very strong probability of happening again.

[vvvslaxman]

4 hours ago, Majestic said:

In 19 World Cup not sure if having him would have worked then because he would have technical deficiencies and also a complete rookie to expect him to build inning at 6/3 in a knockout game.

 

Now, we can expect him to do that, whether he does it or not only time will tell.

 

Just think about it. We had Dinesh Karthik batting at 4 lol Karthik is technically more sound than Iyer.  He can play swing, pace, spin. He can pull 150 click ball in to stands. But he never had the temperament. That is what Iyer's strength is. 

[nevada]

10 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

He is a mentally tough guy. He can weather the storm and on a good day can play an innings like this. Does he have limitations? Definitely. But he somehow  survives and scores. Still limited in some areas.  It comes down what he brings to the table as overall package.

"he somehow  survives and scores"

 

What he lacks in technique, he makes up for in temperament. He knows how to take charge of a game and control the flow of the innings. Yesterday he did a very good job of surviving the initial burst from SL and attacking at opportune times to chase down the target with time to spare. For T20 format, he looks like a massive upgrade over Kohli(current version, not peak), who struggles big time after the end of power play overs. 

[vvvslaxman]

12 minutes ago, nevada said:

"he somehow  survives and scores"

 

What he lacks in technique, he makes up for in temperament. He knows how to take charge of a game and control the flow of the innings. Yesterday he did a very good job of surviving the initial burst from SL and attacking at opportune times to chase down the target with time to spare. For T20 format, he looks like a massive upgrade over Kohli(current version, not peak), who struggles big time after the end of power play overs. 

 

 

Kohli shot selection in crunch matches is highly questionable.  Remember the 2017 final. He was let off only the previous ball playing across against left handed seamer.  He played the exact shot again. Playing across the angle.  HE didn't stop there. He did exactly that again  in the WC semi final against Boult.  Sometimes it comes off sometimes it doesn't.  In the recent world T20 he modified his approach by trying to play straight. He weathered Shaheen's burst and even managed to him down the ground for 6.   

[Vijy]

Shreyas Iyer can destroy spin and medium pace. however, on large grounds on Oz, with more bounce, I am not sure how well he will perform.

Edited February 27, 2022 by Vijy

[Adamant]

Posters getting excited after performances against SL b. 

This guy was never a solution and will never be one. 

 

He is not talented enough. 

[Jamadagni]

He is a good back-up and that's how it should be. I agree technique is overrated, but he way he plays hard length and short balls against pacers is pure comedy. Moreover, he struggles against leg spin and faster spinners as well(Axar Patel kinda bowlers). He just has too many deficiencies. The contrast between him and talented players like Samson couldn't be more clear in yesterday's match. People like Samson will win big matches since they can take on any type of bowling while Iyer types would bully weak attacks and cometh big matches where all teams play their best attacks, you see these Iyer-type players struggle. That's why having a good captain/coach with good vision is paramount. They should analyse these matches based on how they are playing against bowlers, not much how they're scoring...amd should back the right players accordingly. Iyer, for all his scores, is still not good enough for a place in the first XI sorry. 

 

Rohit

Rahul

Kohli

Pant

SKY

Hardik

 

This is the top 6. If any player is unfit, then Samson or Kishan should be backups for them.... Iyer should be backup for Samson/Kishan....

[SK_IH]

I am a big Shreyas fan in ODIs but he is not our best T20 option. Too orthodox a batsman similar to others likely to play at top