Poll : Is Sachin the Greatest batsmen to have played the sport?

[Jimmy Cliff]

Absolutely not. Bradman is the GOAT. Sobers and Richards are the greatest batsmen of the last 50 years or so. He is one of a handful of batsmen who are ATGs in both formats of the game alongside Richards, Ponting and Lara which is a great achievement nonetheless.

[Trichromatic]

2 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Absolutely not. Bradman is the GOAT. Sobers and Richards are the greatest batsmen of the last 50 years or so. He is one of a handful of batsmen who are ATGs in both formats of the game alongside Richards, Ponting and Lara which is a great achievement nonetheless.

1960s was probably weakest era for bowling since 1920s.

[kira]

3 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Absolutely not. Bradman is the GOAT. Sobers and Richards are the greatest batsmen of the last 50 years or so. He is one of a handful of batsmen who are ATGs in both formats of the game alongside Richards, Ponting and Lara which is a great achievement nonetheless.

Absolutely rubbish, leaving aside Bradman for a second, prove how sobers and richards were better than tendulkar?

[Jimmy Cliff]

2 hours ago, kira said:

Absolutely rubbish, leaving aside Bradman for a second, prove how sobers and richards were better than tendulkar?

If you're looking for some sort of mathematical/statistical evidence to prove Sobers and Richards were better than SRT, then no such proof exists. Just as there is no way to prove that SRT was conclusively better than his peers like Lara, Ponting or even Kallis and Sangakkara. I rate Sobers and Richards ahead of SRT as they retained the ability to dominate attacks/take control of the match for much longer than SRT. SRT had that sort of ability from 94-99 but pretty much lost it post his back injury in '99. Of course sporadically he did take the attack to the opposition post '99 but that was usually when he was running out of partners. And it's not as if playing a more measured game helped him score more standout match/series-defining knocks. And Sobers and Richards (like most ATG batsmen) did a lot more damage during their peaks compared to SRT. I am okay with his accumulator phase post 2003 but I think SRT underachieved big time during his peak itself. Now he gets some leeway as India didn't play as much Test cricket as they should have in the late 90s but still in the opportunities he had, he should have had many more match-winning knocks (talking strictly about Tests here). Richards of course gets some extra points from me for being the most entertaining, cavalier, dominating player of fast bowling in the 70s-80s with an excellent record against the best pacers of his time (Lillee/Hadlee/Imran). 

 

A past his peak Richards had the ability to destroy Australia in their backyard with a knock like this.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjsoRQnSb-E

 

Similarly Sobers in his mid to late 30s had the ability to dominate a tearaway fast bowler like Lillee in the early 70s (a knock described by Bradman as the best he'd ever seen in Australia)

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 8, 2018 by Jimmy Cliff

[Cricketics]

Most complete batsman to have played the sport.

 

Player with most impact on the game to have played the sport.

 

 

[Laaloo]

Greatest Cricketer Ever

[Jimmy Cliff]

1 hour ago, Trichromatic said:

1960s was probably weakest era for bowling since 1920s.

Maybe but he still played against a lot of good/very good/great bowlers with much success.

 

 

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[Ankit_sharma03]

Ill say one of the most complete batsman 

Their were others that were better in certain things then him but overall sachin had all 

[sergio04]

He was absolute perfect in technique and to watch him playing was absolute joy.


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[Laaloo]

Best ever

[Trichromatic]

7 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Maybe but he still played against a lot of good/very good/great bowlers with much success.

 

 

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Doesn't matter much. Weak bowling era, 8000 runs at avg of 57. While comparing best ever he doesn't have enough to show for himself. He is not among even top 10 batsmen ever

[Gollum]

@Jimmy Cliff That 254 by Sobers had an interesting back story. He was way past his prime then and had lost interest in cricket, also some family issues. He found a new passion...Golf. He practised golf all the time after our triumphant series there in '71. When he landed in Aus he spent more time on the golf course than with the team. Mind you he was the captain of a World XI (he was the one who insisted on including a young Sunny in the team after being impressed the previous year) and looked disinterested in the lead up to the game. Aussies had bullied them in the previous match and Lillee made the old man hop and jump. After the match the Aussie press had a field day criticizing the * out of Sobers and writing obituaries, Lillee himself had a few words to add, he called Sobers weak and old, not that great etc.... After Lillee's press bites for the 1st time in the tour on the eve of that test Sobers came to the nets leaving his new found love, golf in the back burner. He had  a 45 minute net session and made the bowlers bowl from 18 yards. That 254 he scored was probably the most brutal knock against the Aussies on their turf until Roy Fredericks went one step further in WACA 4 years later. Lillee peppered him with many bouncers in that test, Sobers gave him a taste of his own medicine when it was his time to bowl...imagine the gentleman Sobers bouncing a tailender in an era when using the short pitched stuff against the tail was frowned upon  !!!

Edited February 8, 2018 by Gollum

[Gollum]

Bradman is my GOAT. But I always rate the oldies, Bradman reminds me of Dhyan Chand so he's the sentimental pick. But you can't go wrong picking a Sachin or Viv either. 

[adi B]

GOAT batsman but not GOAT cricketer 

[rkt.india]

Tendulkar is beyond stats. Sheer batsmanship that he demonstrated is still unmatched.

[Jimmy Cliff]

6 minutes ago, Gollum said:

@Jimmy Cliff That 254 by Sobers had an interesting back story. He was way past his prime then and had lost interest in cricket, also some family issues. He found a new passion...Golf. He practised golf all the time after our triumphant series there in '71. When he landed in Aus he spent more time on the golf course than with the team. Mind you he was the captain of a World XI (he was the one who insisted on including a young Sunny in the team after being impressed the previous year) and looked disinterested in the lead up to the game. Aussies had bullied them in the previous match and Lillee made the old man hop and jump. After the match the Aussie press had a field day criticizing the * out of Sobers and writing obituaries, Lillee himself had a few words to add, he called Sobers weak and old, not that great etc.... After Lillee's press bites for the 1st time in the tour on the eve of that test Sobers came to the nets leaving his new found love, golf in the back burner. He had  a 45 minute net session and made the bowlers bowl from 18 yards. That 254 he scored was probably the most brutal knock against the Aussies on their turf until Roy Fredericks went one step further in WACA 4 years later. Lillee peppered him with many bouncers in that test, Sobers gave him a taste of his own medicine when it was his time to bowl...imagine the gentleman Sobers bouncing a tailender in an era when using the short pitched stuff against the tail was frowned upon  !!!

Great post mate. I have seen a few interviews by Sobers/Chappell/Lillee about the innings with a memorable quote by Sobers "He's got the ball, I've got the bat. We'll see..."

 

 

Goddamit look at his bat speed. Sobers was basically Lara without his moodiness. Insane talent. Probably the first great 360° batsman.

[mishra]

Lol

[AmreekanDesi]

He's neither the best ever test batsman nor the best ever ODI batsman

 

but combine together he is top 

[Austin 3:!6]

Best batsman ever

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[maniac]

Yes....the question should be greatest cricketer ever...now that would open up a debate but no brainer....greatest of all time