sensible-indian Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Austin 3:!6 said: Far from being a fabulous captain. He was made to look good due to brilliance of Mujib with the ball. The only game Mujib did not play, he looked pedestal. Making hundreds of changes does not make one a good captain. He tries too many things as evident from his bowling - legspin, carrom ball, arm ball, stop ball and finally cant ball. Similarly he is trying too many things in captaincy as well. I am a fan of Ashwin, but at present he is at the same level as Bhajji as a bowler, if not worse. Its high time he focuses on his off spin...else he will be out of the test team also pretty soon. Ashwin as a bowler is a joke now. I am sick of his bowling these days. As a captain, he is good. I watched all games and i can say that his tactical moves were on dot, changing from one game to another according to game situation. He is equally good at attack and defense... Using pacers and spinners. There were 1-2 games where some of his moves were not great (more due to testing) but overall he has been very good on the field. I used to think he was overselling the bowling unit when he said kings were winning due to their bowling attack but as the games went by, he turned out to be right. All those runs by Rahul and Gayle ensured we got par scores. Not even once did we get an above par score in this ipl. Ashwin even defended a below par score against Delhi. When Rahul and Gayle didnt score big, we scored way below par which guaranteed loses. Look at the games Ashwin lost: 1. Kings bowled out for 150 against RCB in Bangalore on a not so tough track. Still took the game to the last over helped by RCB's ineptness. 2. Kings putting a below par score against MI in indore where chasing teams win most of the times. 3. Kings failing to chase 130 against SRH. Lost by 15 runs. Even if 1 bat from middle order clicked, it was a winnable game. 4. Kings failing to chase 150 against RR inspite of Rahul heroics cos no one apart from Stoinis could reach double figures. Rahul 95...Stoinis 11.... Rest single digit..this was a bit unlucky game for kings where pitch went rogue in 2nd innings.... Ashwin did make some mistakes by trying stoinis in first over but RR did get a lovely track to bat for 6 overs after which things got tougher. Even Buttler was struggling and it wasnt spinning as much as it did in 2nd innings. 5. Kkr - bowling derailed. Still could hav made a game but no one from middle order stepped up. 6. RCB - batting derailed Same trends almost every game. Middle order doesn't score and game tilts too much. Edited May 15, 2018 by sensible-indian philcric 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensible-indian Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) Tye and Mujeeb have been fantastic but the rest hav been absolute liabilities. Rajpoot apart from 2 games has been thrashed. Barinder Sran had one great over against DD. Mohit... Lol. Ashwin and axar wicketless support cast. Moreover, most games there was no 6th bowler to limit damages so these liabilities had to be bowled. If not for Tye and Mujeeb, Kings would have been languishing at the bottom. Edited May 15, 2018 by sensible-indian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancalledsting Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 mistakes made in auction: retaining axar buying ashwin and making him captain no genuine quick no reliable middle order batsmen- stoinis hit and miss, yuvi past it, miller not been played and hit/miss express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollack Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 18 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said: Far from being a fabulous captain. He was made to look good due to brilliance of Mujib with the ball. The only game Mujib did not play, he looked pedestal. Making hundreds of changes does not make one a good captain. He tries too many things as evident from his bowling - legspin, carrom ball, arm ball, stop ball and finally cant ball. Similarly he is trying too many things in captaincy as well. I am a fan of Ashwin, but at present he is at the same level as Bhajji as a bowler, if not worse. Its high time he focuses on his off spin...else he will be out of the test team also pretty soon. Bhajji is much much better t20 bowler than Ashwin. How are they at the same level? UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said: Far from being a fabulous captain. He was made to look good due to brilliance of Mujib with the ball. The only game Mujib did not play, he looked pedestal. Making hundreds of changes does not make one a good captain. He tries too many things as evident from his bowling - legspin, carrom ball, arm ball, stop ball and finally cant ball. Similarly he is trying too many things in captaincy as well. I am a fan of Ashwin, but at present he is at the same level as Bhajji as a bowler, if not worse. Its high time he focuses on his off spin...else he will be out of the test team also pretty soon. abey dimag hai ya dhakkan. The mujeeb you are talking about bowls all those balls too. Bowling all those variations does not make Ashwin bad. Mujeeb did play that 245 game and he too got thrashed. and dont fool us. You are no fan of Ashwin. you are a fan of Bhajji. Edited May 16, 2018 by rkt.india UrmiSinhaRay and Switchblade 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowl_out Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Playing Yuvi over Karun.. Playing Stoinis over Miller.. Sending Axar and Stoinis ahead of Tiwary.. Pathetic decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaloo Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Sambhar sniffer sinks Punjab again. diehardpacer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Just now, Laaloo said: Sambhar sniffer sinks Punjab again. To be honest Butter chicken(Yuvi) screwed them more today....if anything Bissibelle bath(sambhar rice) (KL Rahul)almost won it for them TheWall, velu, philcric and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensible-indian Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Sending Axar was just idiotic. This is a joke middle order and on top of that, we do this ****. AuxiliA and Under_Score 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Laaloo said: Sambhar sniffer sinks Punjab again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 pathetic team selection though .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switchblade Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Styris was critical of Ashwin he said that when MI were 71-4 he should have bowled himself but he waited for Pollard to settle down then bowled himself during the 15th or 16th over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switchblade Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, velu said: pathetic team selection though .. Axar and out of form Stoinis at 4 and 5 was just pathetic. Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensible-indian Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I still can't get over the Axar move. Looks like a career killing self goal if there was one. Manoj Tiwari being repeatedly ignored is something i didnt like. Atleast give him a proper chance. UrmiSinhaRay, Under_Score and AuxiliA 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) If Ashwin wants to create a legacy he needs to forget his IPL dream and sign a 5 year contract with a county team. He has already delivered good performances in 2 WCs, 1 CT and 2 WT20s...nothing else to prove in shorter formats. Besides he is never coming back in these 2 formats with so many prospects ahead in line. If Ash can have a few good overseas matches (in SA he bowled very well btw, plain unlucky that 6 catches were dropped off his bowling in Cape Town) and another good home cycle he is a legit Hall of Famer IMO. If only he can put his legacy above $$$, he will retire as a legend. Right now he's going nowhere. I would very much like it if Jaddu can also do the same but highly doubt it because there are some debts to be paid to the CSK crooks, besides I believe Dhoni is bisexual so even his needs need to be fulfilled and unless a better alternate pops up Dhoni isn't letting his lover go. P.S. Last para j/k, Dhoni chamchas shanti se baithe raho Edited May 16, 2018 by Gollum Switchblade, adi B, UrmiSinhaRay and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upriser7 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 He has been doing what Dravid was doing with those RR/DD teams when he was mentoring them...Just way too much unnecessary tinkering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Washed out Yuvi, Ashwin, Manoj Tiwary > Axar Is he hitting sixes at will in the nets? or am i missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switchblade Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 On 5/15/2018 at 1:21 PM, The Realist said: Building a team around retirement home escapees is asking for trouble. There's a reason the old man is known as Chris Fayle. Yuvraj Singh has been Yuseless since circa 2014. Add that to a dire middle order, mediocre oversees players & trundlers who regularly get smashed and its a surprise they are not near the bottom of the table. It's a horribly constructed team. What a post he failed when they had to deliver got out for a duck today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Dark Horse Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Didn't do justice to the start they got. Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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