Indian bowlers struggle at providing support

[Trichromatic]

Even when we have 2 bowlers bowling well, you have Umesh, Ishant and Pandya totally sucking doing bare minimum job.

 

Umesh has been spray gun for long time, but this time he has cut down speed and still bowling crap.

 

Ishant is usually consistent, at least in last 3-4 years but not today.

 

Unsure of role of Pandya.

[Moochad]

seems to be a strategy by team management to bowl slower, none of our boys are hitting 140-1455 consistently, despite all being capable

 

bevda effect

 

on flatish pitches you have to bowl fast and extract from the pitch

[sensible-indian]

Isn't Pandya bowling well?

 

I haven't been watching his spell.

[sandeep]

Pandya's been actually decent as 5th bowler.  Umesh was the biggest disappointment.  Ishant as usual has been ok as a 3rd pacer, but unable to "spearhead" anything other than farts.  

[asterix]

These two bowlers have no excuses left.

 

They don’t have any exceptional skill sets to even buy a wicket.

 

Given that both of them have little grey matter in their head, the Indian team cannot anymore take the risk of allowing both of them to screw up another away test series.

 

I’m sorry to all the pace suckers here, what will you do with all the pace if the bowler is basically brainless?

[Moochad]

Umya gets one of the 3 dangermen in the England lineup, 

 

let's hope Ishant gets one now

[asterix]

Umya gets one of the 3 dangermen in the England lineup, 
 
let's hope Ishant gets one now

That’s not convincing. He got a lucky wicket...

[Moochad]

1 minute ago, asterix said:

That’s not convincing. He got a lucky wicket...

Many of our wickets are lucky, Shami's 1st of Jennings, Root runout, 

 

we also had an unlucky drop off Ishant by our best fielder Rahane

 

we have to take what we can get on a patta like this I think

[FischerTal]

its umesh and pandya's first time bowling in tests in England. Pandya i give benefit of doubt to but umesh really has no plan whatsoever, even if this is his first time in England. i dont know why bumrah is not given a role in this side. 

 

Ishant we already know what to expect. 

[Laaloo]

2 minutes ago, FischerTal said:

its umesh and pandya's first time bowling in tests in England. Pandya i give benefit of doubt to but umesh really has no plan whatsoever, even if this is his first time in England. i dont know why bumrah is not given a role in this side. 

 

Ishant we already know what to expect. 

Bumrah is still injured...

[zen]

Ideally, Bhuvi and Bumrah would be playing .... Umesh did well in practice game and even in LOIs iirc .... Ishant is inconsistent 

 

The issue is not about pace vs trundlers, but playing the right bowlers, ideally with pace. Both of these are better options than Udankat, Vijay Kumar, .... 

[Straight Drive]

Played just 82 and 37 tests. Cant expect them to perform in such a short test career. Give them 100 tests. 

[Vilander]

attack the stumps attack the channel like Shami does simple..

 

How difficult is it for Umesh and Ishant to do it..

Pandya does it for 4 balls ...

[FischerTal]

Just now, Laaloo said:

Bumrah is still injured...

oh is he available for the series? sorry i haven't been keeping up. i know bhuvi is out for the whole series, right?

[express bowling]

As we mature as a pace bowling nation, we have to gravitate towards skilful pacers who have low averages and low strike rates. 

 

90% of the pacers in contention nowadays have good pace ...  it is time we choose pacers who combine pace and bounce with skills leading to consistent wicket taking ability ...  like Bumrah and Shami.

Edited August 1, 2018 by express bowling

[Vilander]

44 minutes ago, sensible-indian said:

Isn't Pandya bowling well?

 

I haven't been watching his spell.

one or two release balls every over..but yes max of 4 balls 

[Vilander]

Umesh is disappointing. 

 

Siraj should replace him asap.

 

Ishant - Bumrah comes back and replaces him.

[sensible-indian]

9 minutes ago, Vilander said:

one or two release balls every over..but yes max of 4 balls 

Thanks

[Clarke]

This is NOT a completely flat track. A good bowler can create chances here, there is a bit of swing & seam. Shami was troubling the batsmen. Ishant started ok, created a chance and then lost his line when a rightie came to accompany a leftie. Umesh wasn't consistent at all. Andu would trouble the batsman if he gets the same conditions tomorrow.

[rkt.india]

36 minutes ago, asterix said:

 

These two bowlers have no excuses left.

 

They don’t have any exceptional skill sets to even buy a wicket.

 

Given that both of them have little grey matter in their head, the Indian team cannot anymore take the risk of allowing both of them to screw up another away test series.

 

I’m sorry to all the pace suckers here, what will you do with all the pace if the bowler is basically brainless?

 

They aren't even bowling pace. So your argument of all the pace stands null.