Difference between the sides

[coffee_rules]

Their lower MO and Tail. Every time they are 6 down before 100, their lower MO and tail rescues. Ours is pathetic after #5, everybody is a tail and play like #11 batsman a.k.a Shami!

[Number]

Curran Woakes and Moeen.

Edited September 1, 2018 by Number

[speedheat]

Conditions n curren

[Brainfade]

9 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Their lower MO and Tail. Every time they are 6 down before 100, their lower MO and tail rescues. Ours is pathetic after #5, everybody is a tail and play like #11 batsman a.k.a Shami!

They don't try reverse sweeps before settling in.

[chewy]

Difference has been the batting of their all rounders, Stokes, Butler and Curran

 

India’s all rounders Pant, Pandya and Ashwin haven’t matched up with combined runs 

 

[express bowling]

Us losing the toss 4 times out of 4.

 

Has anyone actually seen the results of the actual coin tosses in this series ?   We are told on TV that we have lost.

[Ankit_sharma03]

us playing 1st 2 test as practice games

vijay ,n rahane hasnt improved infact has regressed

Bhuvi injury (not only we missed him as bowler but as lower order batsman)

Ashwin to is looking not 100% evident in his action and is to casual with his batting 

Curran n moeen has hurt us as all rounders 

 

 

[zen]

45 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Their lower MO and Tail. Every time they are 6 down before 100, their lower MO and tail rescues. Ours is pathetic after #5, everybody is a tail and play like #11 batsman a.k.a Shami!

they are playing in their home conditions. At our home, Ashwins, Jadejas, etc., would do well too  

[Vilander]

Curran in two tests he played. Sick of the guy.

 

our lower middle order is tail theirs is better than their top order. 

[YCCC]

Could turn it round, especially if they do well tomorrow and say your top order is the difference. It basically cancels out your **** lower order and vice versa

[coffee_rules]

3 minutes ago, YCCC said:

Could turn it round, especially if they do well tomorrow and say your top order is the difference. It basically cancels out your **** lower order and vice versa

It could, but top order has never flourished in I4 . so why bother? 

[coffee_rules]

 

18 minutes ago, zen said:

they are playing in their home conditions. At our home, Ashwins, Jadejas, etc., would do well too  

we have won on top order strengths in home conditions Kohli 200s and 200s and 300s from other batsmen. They have won our weaknesses. 

[coffee_rules]

Moen Ali v/s Ashwin

Curran v/s Pandya 

Butler v/s Pant 

 

Openers failed for both teams.

Lower MO bailed out in both innings while ours believing in Pandya, Ashwin, Pant failed miserably.

 

It's all about team composition in close matches,

[Moochad]

I think the series is even if the toss was also 2-2. That 2nd test was win toss win test

[Nikhil_cric]

The balance their all-rounders gave them in these conditions is incredible. But these same all-rounders will get exposed brutally overseas including golden boy Curran. His bowling will be cannon fodder when they tour OZ/India.

[PSB_Zone]

Lossing back to back 4 tosses playing without 3-4 practice matches...Still we were competitive...

 

Its still not that bad..

[Vilander]

how many tosses will kohli loose ?

[rtmohanlal]

13 minutes ago, PSB_Zone said:

Lossing back to back 4 tosses playing without 3-4 practice matches...Still we were competitive...

 

Its still not that bad..

this. and to add to that top order batting has been far from adequate with Vijay,Kartik,Rahul & Dhawan  being very poor combined .

In hindsight it is tempting to blame Ashwin & Pandya . But if  we consider them together as 'sum of their parts'  they both played their role of specialist batsman  & specialist bowler respectively. Both avg: around 41.5 with the bat and  28.5 with the ball combined.

And bowlers as a whole satisfactorily did their job. But  top 5 batsmen together  lost  the series

[Clarke]

The biggest difference in this game was the spinner. Overall in the series it has been Sam Curran. 

[bowl_out]

Curran and Moeen.

And middle order.

 

Also, I feel Vijay would have done better in the third and fourth Tests where batting conditions got better. He has the right temperament for a patient and long innings. He wouldn’t have done worse than Dhawan or Rahul in the fourth Test. Needlessly sent him back early