CSK Fan Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, gattaca said: @sandeep This is bad but is callling someone black racism ? N word yes but black ? I don’t know. If you say - that guy is black. Not racism If you say, hey blackie, come here. Definitely racism NameGoesHere, GoldenSun, flamy and 1 other 4
goose Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 1 minute ago, CSK Fan said: If you say - that guy is black. Not racism If you say, hey blackie, come here. Definitely racism ok I'm convinced. it is racist.
Cricketics Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 Anyone knows what daaktar saab had to say about this. I am talking about Daaktar saab from Game On Hai tv show. Haven’t seen my favorite show in a while. Hopefully its still going strong.
Stradlater Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, gattaca said: @sandeep This is bad but is callling someone black racism ? N word yes but black ? I don’t know. Context matters Bhai. Literal translation never does justice to these words.
sandeep Posted January 22, 2019 Author Posted January 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, gattaca said: @sandeep This is bad but is callling someone black racism ? N word yes but black ? I don’t know. 7 minutes ago, goose said: Tricky. Like @gattaca says is using the word 'kaale' racist? bit like you or I calling an Aussie 'gora' Maybe you guys are not fluent in hindi/urdu. Its the prefix "abey" that very clearly signifies the derogatory intent. Like others have explained, the phrase doesn't translate simply to 'black'. its more like 'Hey Blackie'. Stradlater and Zero_Unit 2
goose Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, sandeep said: Maybe you guys are not fluent in hindi/urdu. Its the prefix "abey" that very clearly signifies the derogatory intent. Like others have explained, the phrase doesn't translate simply to 'black'. its more like 'Hey Blackie'. Yup I see that now
Zero_Unit Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Who sledges in a language that the batsman doesn't even know if it's directed at him. People who can't talk in english to save their arse, that's who. Also, wtf is this hassan laughing at? He finds this racial bs funny but turn the table around, will cry a river or two and protest/burn pics in the name of racism. Ignorant douchbags like this should not be allowed to use the net, LOL. Lots of morons in PP seems to be enjoying this racist slur from their favorite captain aswell. Edited January 22, 2019 by Zero_Unit cowboysfan 1
Singh bling Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 2 hours ago, cric_fan said: Again, one idiot who was ‘preaching’. I’ve experienced racism on this very forum. Don’t pretend that Indian’s are angels. You and other Pakistani's face nationism , not racism. Racially you are no different from indians
Stradlater Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Singh bling said: You and other Pakistani's face nationism , not racism. Racially you are no different from indians What about the Arab descendents. Afaik only the lower caste converts are racially similar to Indians. All the other handsome , fair Pakistanis are the descendants of mighty Arabs and Turks. Sarfaraj is definitely Indian though.
Dil Dil India Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 2 hours ago, cric_fan said: Again, one idiot who was ‘preaching’. I’ve experienced racism on this very forum. Don’t pretend that Indian’s are angels. Yes because "racism" on an online cricket forum is the same as your national captain totla spewing garbage in front of millions whilst representing his country.
coffee_rules Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Stradlater said: What about the Arab descendents. Afaik only the lower caste converts are racially similar to Indians. All the other handsome , fair Pakistanis are the descendants of mighty Arabs and Turks. Sarfaraj is definitely Indian though. Muslim communities in South Asia apply a system of social stratification. It developed as a result of ethnic segregation between the foreign conquerors (Ashraf) and the local converts (Ajlaf).
Stradlater Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Muslim communities in South Asia apply a system of social stratification. It developed as a result of ethnic segregation between the foreign conquerors (Ashraf) and the local converts (Ajlaf). I know Bhaijan. Was only messing around. And even the Ashraf ones aren't pure anymore. Anyway we are derailing the thread.
Stradlater Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 Guys stop calling him a "totla". No need to stoop down to the level of racist Pakistanis. There are other ways to make fun of.
cowboysfan Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 Why are Desis so racist?even people who have never seen a black man is instinctively racist.
LordPrabhzy Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 30 minutes ago, Stradlater said: Guys stop calling him a "totla". No need to stoop down to the level of racist Pakistanis. There are other ways to make fun of. LOL now i get what an earlier poster meant when they said ' are you sure he said Kaale or Taale ' sandeep 1
gattaca Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: Why are Desis so racist?even people who have never seen a black man is instinctively racist. In India it is not racist to call someone black or monkey, I have seen many call their friends like that. We don’t have concept of oppression based on race/color because we are one race.
maniac Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, gattaca said: In India it is not racist to call someone black or monkey, I have seen many call their friends like that. We don’t have concept of oppression based on race/color because we are one race. Calling someone who is dark skinned Kaala or Kallu in India May not be racism in Indian context but it is still mean and offensive. However it carries a different context when referring to black guy especially in the “tone” Sarfraz used here. It was offensive Edited January 22, 2019 by maniac coffee_rules 1
kosingh Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, gattaca said: In India it is not racist to call someone black or monkey, I have seen many call their friends like that. We don’t have concept of oppression based on race/color because we are one race. The word "black" is not racist in English too. Context matters. No doubt it was racist here.
Stradlater Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, gattaca said: In India it is not racist to call someone black or monkey, I have seen many call their friends like that. We don’t have concept of oppression based on race/color because we are one race. Go ask a dark skinned Indian how he/she feels when friends jokingly refer to him/her as Kala/Kali or worse when relatives jokes about it too. Racist or not , it's extremely degrading and dehumanizing to a person and directly affects a guy's self esteem.
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