Ravindra Jadeja should be NOWHERE near Team India's 2019 World Cup squad!

[maniac]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

 he is our third choice spinner. I would keep him just for fielding. Kedhar jadhav should start an imaginary fight with Rayudu and beat him to pulp. Jadeja can walk in as a substitute fielder

On what basis? He doesn’t pick up

wickets. On best days he keeps it economical and can have bad days too. Batting is useless in LOIs. I am sure there are 100s or better options. I wouldn’t mind Krunal Pandya over him but he looks like a run of the mill pie chucked but has some batting talent. Whatever happened to Rasool guy?

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, maniac said:

On what basis? He doesn’t pick up

wickets. On best days he keeps it economical and can have bad days too. Batting is useless in LOIs. I am sure there are 100s or better options. I wouldn’t mind Krunal Pandya over him but he looks like a run of the mill pie chucked but has some batting talent. Whatever happened to Rasool guy?

Ravichandran Torres  :)  is our other option.  

[maniac]

Just now, vvvslaxman said:

Ravichandran Torres  :)  is our other option.  

Why go to TTF’s. I refuse to believe India doesn’t have spinners who can hold a bat. Ashwin,Jadeja hell even Mishra and Chawla.

 

Sundar is obviously too raw.

 

KP is the best bet not the SA/Eng one but the WI wannabe one

[vvvslaxman]

7 minutes ago, maniac said:

Why go to TTF’s. I refuse to believe India doesn’t have spinners who can hold a bat. Ashwin,Jadeja hell even Mishra and Chawla.

 

Sundar is obviously too raw.

 

KP is the best bet not the SA/Eng one but the WI wannabe one

Seen a few like Shreyas Gopal, Hooda, Abishek sharma. Not quiet there yet with either department.  Gowtham is okayish. He can hit long balls.

[maniac]

Just now, vvvslaxman said:

Seen a few like Shreyas Gopal, Hooda, Abishek sharma. Not quiet there yet with either department.  Gowtham is okayish. He can hit long balls.

Gowtham can be worth a shot, total slogger and better bowler than Krunal even though batting still rate Krunal over him

[ShoonyaSifar]

7 hours ago, sandeep said:

You know what's stupid?  Complete and utter ignorance, shoonya understanding of the impact that ODI powerplay rule changes had on the viability of finger spinners in ODI cricket.  Jadeja's over-all England numbers massively benefit from his earlier record - its not just recency bias.  Its the rule change that mandates only four outfielders in the overs 10 to 40.  Because of this, not just Jadeja, almost all finger spinners' effectiveness has been reduced massively. 

 

4 outfielders mean that there is always one boundary that has to be left open, and with the minimal turn that finger spinners get after the bounce, batsmen can pre-mediate and target that zone.  This is the reason why in the most recent Champions trophy India lost a league-stage game to SL, after scoring more than 330 batting first.  Kusal Mendis repeatedly targeted Jadeja and milked him for 8+ RPO.  It was so bad that Jadeja only ended up bowling 6 overs in that match.  

 

And this has nothing to with England - in general, on tracks where the par score is usually over 300, Jadeja's bowling has been consistently targeted as the weak link.  

 

To drill down into this England numbers 

 

 

 

Link : http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/234675.html?class=2;host=1;template=results;type=bowling

 

In 2017, he averaged more than 62 runs per wicket, at an economy rate of 5.9, strike rate of 63.    His overall England numbers look really good because they are massively boosted by his performances in 2013 and 2014, the ODI game was completely different back then.  

 

Forget England, just look at his ODI performances everywhere except that Asia cup - played on tracks where par score was well-below 300, and the grip provided on those tracks meant that all spinners were more effective than they normally would be.

 

In the last 3 years, Jadeja averages 48 runs per wicket in 17 games, excluding the UAE.   Outside Asia, He's played 10 ODIs and averages 91 runs per wicket.  Just for comparison, Kedar Jadhav's bowling average with the same filters?  39 runs per wicket, with very similar economy rate.   Essentially Jadeja's bowling is reduced to the effectiveness of a part-time bowler, and his batting limitations in ODIs are extremely well-known.  His most famous contribution with the bat in the lasts 3 years in ODIs is running Hardik Pandya out in the CT final.  

 

 

You would have avoided such detailed analysis had you read what I wrote "should not be in the WC squad, can at best be in the reserves".

[Gollum]

All up to MSK now...surely he isn't making it to the WC squad after this. 

[SecondSlip]

BUMP! 

Ravindra Jadeja from January 1, 2015 - Present (UPDATED STATISTICS) 
Batting Average: 18.10
Bowling Average 47.92


He has been selected or the World Cup despite doing NOTHING with both bat and ball for the past 4 years!

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SOURCE: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/234675.html?class=2;spanmin1=01+jan+2015;spanval1=span;template=results;type=allround

Edited April 17, 2019 by SecondSlip

[putrevus]

How the heck is he coming in allrounder category. Only one from DK/Jadeja had to be selected. 

[someone]

Our selecters must think he is the next Steve Smith? A average spinner who can bat a bit, to eventually a world class batsman?

 

much rather play Krunal Pandaya than this fellow...

[chewy]

what's funny, he was discarded with Ashwin after disastrous CT finals, and was overlooked for last two years

and whap bamp, he gets picked in the WC squad, off two-three half decent IPL games.

 

Have to feel for likes of Krunal Pandya, Washington, D Jadeja, Rasool, Jalaj Saxena,  Nadeem, Jayant Yadav...never given any chances to provide alternative to leg spin and Jaddu sneaks through

 

As usual lack of long term targetted planning from India

[vvvslaxman]

When i watch him struggling to have one solid connection with the bat, ball after ball in the end overs, i feel disgusted with selectors.

[Nikola]

42 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

When i watch him struggling to have one solid connection with the bat, ball after ball in the end overs, i feel disgusted with selectors.

Selectors are just there for name, all decisions were taken by kohli in the end. I have heard that 4 - 5 people from selection committee wanted pant but kohli declined it and he wasn't picked. Kohli should have known how useless jaddu was in 2017 ct or even 2015 world cup but he is still sticking with him now i just hope they don't play him in xi for his fielding.

Edited April 17, 2019 by Nikola

[Gollum]

He was way worse than Ashwin in the CT final, last 4 years in ODIs he has significantly worse stats than Ash despite playing on many favorable pitches. Both were rightly thrown out of the team but only one of them has connection. 

 

As a specialist 12th man he can be an asset, otherwise a huge burden. 

[Turning_track]

The selectors wasted a spot by selecting him. He would be carted all around if he makes to playing eleven.

And does he even contribute with the bat? I think his knock against KKR a day before WC selection fooled the selection committee. Vaughan has told many times in his interviews that English pitches are getting more & more flat in last few years. In England's list A domestic tournament, these were the following scores on day 1- 342, 367, 379, 326 and 310. So, just pray that he keeps warming the benches otherwise it is gonna be advantage oposition on the field. 

[Zero_Unit]

I don't understand why he still gets selected. Overall a crappy package cricketer. Only good for his fielding ... even Jonty Rhodes wacked a few with the bat.

[vvvslaxman]

On 4/17/2019 at 10:30 PM, Zero_Unit said:

I don't understand why he still gets selected. Overall a crappy package cricketer. Only good for his fielding ... even Jonty Rhodes wacked a few with the bat.

More i see Jadhav is also a crappy selection along with DK.  Could have gone with Shreyas Gopal as a second leggie option. Saini as a 4th pace man.

[nevada]

On 4/18/2019 at 3:39 AM, Turning_track said:

The selectors wasted a spot by selecting him. He would be carted all around if he makes to playing eleven.

And does he even contribute with the bat? I think his knock against KKR a day before WC selection fooled the selection committee. Vaughan has told many times in his interviews that English pitches are getting more & more flat in last few years. In England's list A domestic tournament, these were the following scores on day 1- 342, 367, 379, 326 and 310. So, just pray that he keeps warming the benches otherwise it is gonna be advantage oposition on the field. 

Jaddu is also capable of contributing to that level of scores or better with a century or two - as a bowler.

[neel roy]

Having read all your comments I can only tell you all that you all still dont get it why Jadeja was selected...The reason is for his fielding..as a substitute fielder..think of this..Bumrah or Shami bowls a spell gets tired/slightly injured and walks off..or it is the 45th over and legendary fielder Yuzi Chahal has left the field and AUs needs 55 of 34 balls and there is a difficult catch in deepmid wicket..who would you have as your substitite fielder..Pant or Jadeja or Rayudu..close your eyes and youll get up in cold sweat if its Rayudu or Pant..THATS where Jadeja the sub fielder comes in..he can effect a run out or take a blinder when our legendary fielders like chahal,kuldeep,bumrah are taking some breather and believe me there will be lots of opportunities if this years heat is as bad as last years in June..so I will always bat for Jadeja..and if he is lucky he ll get a game or 2 against BD/Afghanistan..and I bet it was Dhoni s plan to have him;)

Edited April 23, 2019 by neel roy

[Nikola]

How can this guy make to worldcup squad with such pathetic performance? should have sent pant or any other youngster in place of him. I hope icc makes strict rules for usage of 12th man in field and then kohli would understand mistake he did by picking him.