FischerTal Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 To me, this man seems bipolar. He claims to hate Foreigners but was supposedly traveling all over the world for the past couple of years. He was most likely triggered very easily and the killing of this young girl was a trigger for him to do something that would resolve the internal struggles of his life. What I’m worried about is that he, like many other supremacists get their indoctrination from sites like 4chan and 8chan. Is anything being done to stop that? If groups like daesh and al-qaeda are condemned for spreading hatred and violence, these websites are a cesspool of the lowest form of human degenerates. sandeep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 5 hours ago, rkt.india said: hindus are getting killed for eternity. it is not something that started after some muslims got killed for beef. killings for beef has just been hindu reaction to hindu killings. Thats not the point. The point is, if its okay to blame a random muslim today for a terrorist attack by a random muslim yesterday, then its also okay to blame a random hindu today for a murder committed by random hindu yesterday due to cow politics. THats a pretty simple, basic point. If you wish to say 'what did you expect' to a person who has zero personal liability to a problem, just because of shared identity, then it also applies to hindus and the opposition is equally valid to say 'what did you expect' to a random hindu ( of zero personal liability) because he/she shares identity with a random hindu murderer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 4 hours ago, rtmohanlal said: ball tamperor kaptaan saahab at his very best .... being oppertunistic to stabilize his position. He didn't utter a word against Pulwama attack. Now being eager to blame the culprits when the victims were muslims .Such a double standard oppertunistic hypocrite. To be fair, for outsiders, there is always a difference when military gets to be at the recieving end of terrorism vs civillians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollack Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) This incident will actually push left leaning individuals to be more 'left'. The major fear of leftists is majority engulfing minority irrespective of caste, race, religion, immigrants, refugees etc. One of the reason why leftist in India are very quick to label Hindu terror for random fringe groups. Edited March 15, 2019 by Pollack Muloghonto and JourneyMan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I hope you guys saw the whole video, driving and then entering with a camera on his head, shooting at will, re filling and shooting again, then shooting out on the road and walking back to his car. Jatboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lannister Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 12 hours ago, rkt.india said: hindus are getting killed for eternity. it is not something that started after some muslims got killed for beef. killings for beef has just been hindu reaction to hindu killings. I believe cow-related incidents have stopped after public backlash on social media. That is also one of the black marks on Modi's government. Some stupid people is trying to equate it to decade old terrorism that's been happening on Hindus just to divert the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 35 minutes ago, Lannister said: I believe cow-related incidents have stopped after public backlash on social media. That is also one of the black marks on Modi's government. Some stupid people is trying to equate it to decade old terrorism that's been happening on Hindus just to divert the topic. Stop trying to act childish. The point has been made several times and you ran away from it. Its very simple: Random muslims get killed = " what did they expect, when random muslim jihadis blow up people" ? By that same standard, it should be: Random hindu gets killed = " what did they expect, when random hindu cow fanatic kills people" ? Until you can answer why not, when both are questions of random people being killed for what they IDENTIFY with, because of another random murderer who has the same IDENTITY LABEL, you have no case, except being tacitly bigoted. JourneyMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 14 hours ago, sandeep said: There should be global restrictions and extreme vetting on automatic and semi-automatic weapons. This is unacceptable. Guns are already banned in NZ I believe. In countries where they had gun control, only criminals/antisocial elements find a way to buy guns. Not saying that everyone should have guns but the logic is not sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 14 hours ago, R!TTER said: Taliban Khan at it again Is there peace today? Peace has to be given a chance, the Muslim rulers or invaders the other person was talking about - they were no different from many Hindu rulers, albeit they hid behind spreading Islam excuse. A common Muslim man could be more religious than the avg Hindu guy, but he's not looking to burn temples, convert people or kill innocents just in the name of Islam. Yeah there are probably more extremists in that community but they don't define the Muslim populace in India. I'll want a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer to be punished regardless of religion, to the full extent of law. India of today wasn't born in a vacuum - all the communal tension aside, the likes of Rafi, Dilip Sahab, SRK et al have contributed to our nation just as much as any other Hindu. It isn't their fault that Jinnah thought Muslims couldn't live in peace with Hindus, likewise it isn't the fault of peace loving Muslims in India that terrorists attacking the nation are from the same faith, albeit mostly from Pak. Yes, things are far more peaceful now than we ever were. 100% peace is never possible, not even the most developed countries. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 8 hours ago, Pollack said: This incident will actually push left leaning individuals to be more 'left'. The major fear of leftists is majority engulfing minority irrespective of caste, race, religion, immigrants, refugees etc. One of the reason why leftist in India are very quick to label Hindu terror for random fringe groups. leftists have nowhere to hide. They have killed more people in the world than any other ideology. beetle and Switchblade 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 9 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Thats not the point. The point is, if its okay to blame a random muslim today for a terrorist attack by a random muslim yesterday, then its also okay to blame a random hindu today for a murder committed by random hindu yesterday due to cow politics. THats a pretty simple, basic point. If you wish to say 'what did you expect' to a person who has zero personal liability to a problem, just because of shared identity, then it also applies to hindus and the opposition is equally valid to say 'what did you expect' to a random hindu ( of zero personal liability) because he/she shares identity with a random hindu murderer. Difference is someone getting killed for cow and beef are stray incidents. They are not norms. Things did not go out of hand. While killings for Islam are happening all over the world. They kill even their own just because they are from a different sect of Islam. And you will always have some extreme elements in every sphere, in every religion, in every ideology. None left, center or right or hindu, muslim or christian is exception. Too much belief in any ideology or religion will lead to extreme behavior when people become averse to challenging their beliefs. Switchblade and beetle 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Guns are already banned in NZ I believe. In countries where they had gun control, only criminals/antisocial elements find a way to buy guns. Not saying that everyone should have guns but the logic is not sound Guns are not banned in NZ, they are regulated. As for criminals/anti-socials, thats more or less false. Cost of guns in countries that ban guns (like UK) end up being over 10K for a semi automatic. It means your anti-socials, in 99% cases, dont have them and criminals who do, are the serious hardcore mafia gangs- who have guns anyways. All societies that ban guns show a remarkable drop in gun related violence/suicides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, rkt.india said: leftists have nowhere to hide. They have killed more people in the world than any other ideology. Islam says hello. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Difference is someone getting killed for cow and beef are stray incidents. They are not norms. Things did not go out of hand. While killings for Islam are happening all over the world. They kill even their own just because they are from a different sect of Islam. And you will always have some extreme elements in every sphere, in every religion, in every ideology. None left, center or right or hindu, muslim or christian is exception. Too much belief in any ideology or religion will lead to extreme behavior when people become averse to challenging their beliefs. Sure. Cow killings are 100 times less than Islamists, even more. But it doesn't answer my point - if we can say 'oh well, what did you expect' when 40 innocent muslims get murdered, because some random, unrelated terrorist happened to be muslim, why can't we say 'oh well, what did you expect' when 2 innocent hindus get murdered, because some random, unrelated gau-rakshaks murdered someone ? In BOTH cases, people its diminishing the deaths of innocent people because unrelated, random criminals from their stated faith killed someone else. So why can't we take the same attitude for Hindus ? Laaloo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R!TTER Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 36 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Yes, things are far more peaceful now than we ever were. 100% peace is never possible, not even the most developed countries. What does this have to do with my point that a united India could be more peaceful than the one we inherited - after Partition, no thanks to Congress & Nehru! Let's say we resolve the Kashmir issue somehow, do you think Pak will let India be then? India is the antithesis of Pak, it's the opposite of everything they're taught in their history books - India wasn't even supposed to be united after a while, given what many Brits hoped or predicted & yet here we are! India's strength has always been diversity, we tolerate the minority or the majority theatrics from time to time, we aren't China or Pak in that regard. Is that perfect - no, however it's better than concentration reeducation camps or forced conversions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hound Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 First separitists and jihadis were spotted passing disgusting comments on fb/Twitter after pulwama attack and now it's the white supremacist and few other hatemongers on this incident. Maybe the world was better without social media. Muloghonto and JourneyMan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Islam has managed to create terrorists even outside Muslim world Switchblade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Sure. Cow killings are 100 times less than Islamists, even more. .. Ignorant, its probably atleast in tune of 1: Several Million. Switchblade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moochad Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) It's well and good to condemn the racism by whites, and obviously the terrorism should be condemned, but it takes two hands to clap. Migration is an issue with the rise of right-wing populism according to even Hilary Clinton. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/22/hillary-clinton-europe-must-curb-immigration-stop-populists-trump-brexit When white people see these types of posts and open bigotry against whites is normalized in the WEst, what else will you get but Brexit, Trump, etc Spoiler Edited March 16, 2019 by Moochad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 8 hours ago, rkt.india said: leftists have nowhere to hide. They have killed more people in the world than any other ideology. 8 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Islam says hello. While the likes of Mao & Stalin killed more people , it was driven more by a lust for power than any ideology.. Islam on the other hand has successfully indoctrinated its followers on a path of violence against the non-believers. Need radical reforms in that community Alam_dar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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