India vs West Indies | 1st Test | Antigua | Aug 22-26 2019 | Match thread

[Frustrated]

Ishant gets his 1st wicket. 

[Frustrated]

Jaddu joins Ishant.   Takes his 1st.    Windies now 50/3

[jf1gp_1]

Thank you fat a$$

[R!TTER]

Just now, rtmohanlal said:

superb inns from Jadeja on a tough pitch..... Easily a ' 40+ avg: ' calibre batsman in tests.  Hope the  team management use him sensibly  'moving forward' atleast.He deserves his chances in 'top 6'

He's avg 40+ for well over 3 years now, hardly under-performing in fact given his (all round) record he should be the first man on the team sheet, even ahead of Brat 

 

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	Span	Mat	Runs	HS	Bat Av	100	Wkts	BBI	Bowl Av	5	Ct	St	Ave Diff
unfiltered	2012-2019	42	1543	100*	32.82	1	193	7/48	23.59	9	31	0	9.23	Profile
filtered	2015-2019	27	1094	100*	42.07	1	132	7/48	22.67	6	16	0	19.40

Career summary

Grouping	Span	Mat	Runs	HS	Bat Av	100	Wkts	BBI	Bowl Av	5	Ct	St	Ave Diff
v Afghanistan	2018-2018	1	20	20	20.00	0	6	4/17	5.83	0	1	0	14.16
v Australia	2017-2019	6	217	81	27.12	0	32	6/63	20.75	2	3	0	6.37
v Bangladesh	2017-2017	1	76	60*	-	0	6	4/78	24.66	0	1	0	-
v England	2016-2018	6	323	90	46.14	0	33	7/48	28.18	1	6	0	17.96
v New Zealand	2016-2016	3	129	50*	64.50	0	14	5/73	24.07	1	0	0	40.42
v South Africa	2015-2015	1	24	24	24.00	0	7	5/30	8.00	1	1	0	16.00
v Sri Lanka	2017-2017	5	125	70*	41.66	0	23	5/152	27.52	1	1	0	14.14
v West Indies	2016-2019	4	180	100*	45.00	1	11	3/12	17.27	0	3	0	27.72
in Australia	2018-2019	2	90	81	30.00	0	7	3/82	28.57	0	0	0	1.42
in England	2018-2018	1	99	86*	99.00	0	7	4/79	36.85	0	0	0	62.14
in India	2015-2018	20	740	100*	41.11	1	101	7/48	20.88	5	15	0	20.22
in Sri Lanka	2017-2017	2	85	70*	85.00	0	13	5/152	28.76	1	0	0	56.23
in West Indies	2016-2019	2	80	58	26.66	0	4	2/20	13.00	0	1	0	13.66
in Americas	2016-2019	2	80	58	26.66	0	4	2/20	13.00	0	1	0	13.66
in Asia	2015-2018	22	825	100*	43.42	1	114	7/48	21.78	6	15	0	21.64
in Europe	2018-2018	1	99	86*	99.00	0	7	4/79	36.85	0	0	0	62.14
in Oceania	2018-2019	2	90	81	30.00	0	7	3/82	28.57	0	0	0	1.42
home	2015-2018	20	740	100*	41.11	1	101	7/48	20.88	5	15	0	20.22
away	2016-2019	7	354	86*	44.25	0	31	5/152	28.51	1	1	0	15.73

Edited August 23, 2019 by R!TTER

[ExtremeBrainfade]

39 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/234675.html?class=1;spanmin1=22+sep+2016;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

 

 

this is his record in the last 3 years or so. Averages 45.56 despite  trying to slog in the end on several of these occasions for the team cause.

 

"Bit by bit, he has become an important piece of India's all-rounder puzzle."

-Sanju Viju Manju

 

 

[kubrickian]

Its not a question of averages alone. At times, he couldnt contribute much in tests with the bat which is needed of an all rounder. He used to play too many shots and also had technical weakness against fast bowling. Most of  his knocks were cameos where he used to throw the bat around. He is much more capable than that.  But he is improving and hopefully gets even better.

[R!TTER]

If you've actually seen him play you wouldn't be saying that 

 

He was the difference between Ind vs SA 2015, first innings Mohali & then Delhi, one of the key differences vs England 2016, won us the series vs Oz in 2017 & did fairly well away in 2018 as well. If there's one batter who's out-batted him in critical junctures, especially home, it is Pujara not even Kohli.

 

Yes he could've done better at times but then if he's doing the job of your top 6 batters or top 2 bowler every time, then WTH are the rest of them in the team for?

[cricketfan28]

good match so far  , looks like a close one to me.

[rtmohanlal]

54 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

He's avg 40+ for well over 3 years now, hardly under-performing in fact given his (all round) record he should be the first man on the team sheet, even ahead of Brat 

 

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	Span	Mat	Runs	HS	Bat Av	100	Wkts	BBI	Bowl Av	5	Ct	St	Ave Diff
unfiltered	2012-2019	42	1543	100*	32.82	1	193	7/48	23.59	9	31	0	9.23	Profile
filtered	2015-2019	27	1094	100*	42.07	1	132	7/48	22.67	6	16	0	19.40

Career summary

Grouping	Span	Mat	Runs	HS	Bat Av	100	Wkts	BBI	Bowl Av	5	Ct	St	Ave Diff
v Afghanistan	2018-2018	1	20	20	20.00	0	6	4/17	5.83	0	1	0	14.16
v Australia	2017-2019	6	217	81	27.12	0	32	6/63	20.75	2	3	0	6.37
v Bangladesh	2017-2017	1	76	60*	-	0	6	4/78	24.66	0	1	0	-
v England	2016-2018	6	323	90	46.14	0	33	7/48	28.18	1	6	0	17.96
v New Zealand	2016-2016	3	129	50*	64.50	0	14	5/73	24.07	1	0	0	40.42
v South Africa	2015-2015	1	24	24	24.00	0	7	5/30	8.00	1	1	0	16.00
v Sri Lanka	2017-2017	5	125	70*	41.66	0	23	5/152	27.52	1	1	0	14.14
v West Indies	2016-2019	4	180	100*	45.00	1	11	3/12	17.27	0	3	0	27.72
in Australia	2018-2019	2	90	81	30.00	0	7	3/82	28.57	0	0	0	1.42
in England	2018-2018	1	99	86*	99.00	0	7	4/79	36.85	0	0	0	62.14
in India	2015-2018	20	740	100*	41.11	1	101	7/48	20.88	5	15	0	20.22
in Sri Lanka	2017-2017	2	85	70*	85.00	0	13	5/152	28.76	1	0	0	56.23
in West Indies	2016-2019	2	80	58	26.66	0	4	2/20	13.00	0	1	0	13.66
in Americas	2016-2019	2	80	58	26.66	0	4	2/20	13.00	0	1	0	13.66
in Asia	2015-2018	22	825	100*	43.42	1	114	7/48	21.78	6	15	0	21.64
in Europe	2018-2018	1	99	86*	99.00	0	7	4/79	36.85	0	0	0	62.14
in Oceania	2018-2019	2	90	81	30.00	0	7	3/82	28.57	0	0	0	1.42
home	2015-2018	20	740	100*	41.11	1	101	7/48	20.88	5	15	0	20.22
away	2016-2019	7	354	86*	44.25	0	31	5/152	28.51	1	1	0	15.73

 

51 minutes ago, ExtremeBrainfade said:

"Bit by bit, he has become an important piece of India's all-rounder puzzle."

-Sanju Viju Manju

 

 

 

44 minutes ago, kubrickian said:

Its not a question of averages alone. At times, he couldnt contribute much in tests with the bat which is needed of an all rounder. He used to play too many shots and also had technical weakness against fast bowling. Most of  his knocks were cameos where he used to throw the bat around. He is much more capable than that.  But he is improving and hopefully gets even better.

the big problem with Jadeja has  been that  by the time he gets well settled  he would be forced to slog or accelerate  for the sake of the team cause there by unnecessarily forcing him to throw away his wkt:. And Jadeja deserves a lot more than that. I can  recall 3 such knocks here itself.  2 80+ knocks  in ENG & AUS respectively   and the 58 in this match. All these   3 abroad knocks , he could have converted into 100s  otherwise , because he is a genuine batsman going by his domestic track record . It is so unfair on such a player(he already is a great bowler)  to make him throw his wkt: away like that. If used in TOP 6, I  am sure he can be lot more effective as a batsman. 

[ssurenn]

Chase gone ! 

[vvvslaxman]

India is a bowler short. With no Hardik pandya India misses the balance. I would have backed Ashwin in place of a batsman.

[kubrickian]

Ishant on fire. 5 for. Good stuff. 

[zaqw222222]

Excellent bowling by Ishant. Well deserved 5-fer

[cowboysfan]

we need a 75 run lead,got to get holder out early.

[ssurenn]

Wer is sl vs nz thread 

[R.D forever]

If we had Ashwin on the other end would have closed them for 150. Poor selection

 

Ashwin and Rohit are clearly seen as threats and as Kumble's men

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

 

[beetle]

 

sharmaji can now see after bowling the ball....

[rkt.india]

14 hours ago, R!TTER said:

If you've actually seen him play you wouldn't be saying that 

 

He was the difference between Ind vs SA 2015, first innings Mohali & then Delhi, one of the key differences vs England 2016, won us the series vs Oz in 2017 & did fairly well away in 2018 as well. If there's one batter who's out-batted him in critical junctures, especially home, it is Pujara not even Kohli.

 

Yes he could've done better at times but then if he's doing the job of your top 6 batters or top 2 bowler every time, then WTH are the rest of them in the team for?

But he is doing that by batting at 7- 8, not in top 6. There was a time when many thought same about Ashwin when he was scoring runs at critical juncture that he should be batting at 6 but that didn't work out.

[R!TTER]

Just now, rkt.india said:

But he is doing that by batting at 7- 8, not in top 6. There was a time when many thought same about Ashwin when he was scoring runs at critical juncture that he should be batting at 6 but that didn't work out.

Perhaps, can't say that without trying him out at 6 though with Pant in the side that's not necessary even in India. Ashwin's been super lazy though, over the last 4 years, take WI out he's been outperformed by Jadeja in nearly every series home & away.

It's not even a contest against the top sides, Jadeja has also played super critical knocks against SA, Eng, Oz while "Ash" has had the excuse of hip injuries & what not!

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Player	Span	Mat	Runs	HS	Bat Av	100	Wkts	BBI	Bowl Av	5	Ct	St	Ave Diff
RA Jadeja (INDIA)	2015-2019	19	778	90	35.36	0	102	7/48	21.37	6	14	0	13.99
R Ashwin (INDIA)	2015-2018	23	777	72	24.28	0	131	7/59	22.67	11	9	0	1.60
K Rabada (SA)	2016-2018	18	311	34	14.80	0	89	7/112	24.07	6	7	0	-9.26
SCJ Broad (ENG)	2015-2019	25	542	57*	15.05	0	99	8/15	25.83	5	5	0	-10.78
MA Starc (AUS)	2015-2018	18	383	58	15.95	0	79	6/111	27.89	4	9	0	-11.94
JR Hazlewood (AUS)	2015-2019	23	215	29	15.35	0	96	6/70	27.61	4	6	0	-12.25
NM Lyon (AUS)	2015-2019	25	304	47	11.69	0	91	6/49	32.75	1	13	0	-21.06
Yasir Shah (PAK)	2015-2019	17	249	33	9.96	0	80	8/41	35.03	5	7	0	-25.07

Edited August 24, 2019 by R!TTER