ShoonyaSifar Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 6:43 PM, putrevus said: He was dropped right after that series, people tend to forget that fact. He got his chance again because he was an odi player too just like Rohit Sharma. While I sympathize with Karan Nair, he has been given ample chances with India A and he has done nothing of note there.Karun Nair and recent Shahbaz Nadeem were filling in for injured players. Who is he supposed to replace in this team.It is very easy to blame TM. Vihari was MOS against WI and is not getting a sniff in this team.Is he being sidelined due to some nepotism. Yes he was dropped but immediately replaced Yuvraj in the 2011 England series Test squad. So the TM kept backing him. OTOH Kohli preferred Vihari ahead of Nair (have got nothing against Vihari, he deserved his spot). There were rumours of Kohli not being happy with Kaun in the test squad. My conspiracy theory says Kohli saw Karun as being too close to Kumble and took his revenge. And now Vihari is facing the same treatment as Kohli suddenly has developed a liking for playing 5 specialist bowlers against weak opposition! If only Kohli's Test captains had treated him likewise (was averaging under 40 after 30 tests).
Turning_track Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 49 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Yes he was dropped but immediately replaced Yuvraj in the 2011 England series Test squad. So the TM kept backing him. OTOH Kohli preferred Vihari ahead of Nair (have got nothing against Vihari, he deserved his spot). There were rumours of Kohli not being happy with Kaun in the test squad. My conspiracy theory says Kohli saw Karun as being too close to Kumble and took his revenge. And now Vihari is facing the same treatment as Kohli suddenly has developed a liking for playing 5 specialist bowlers against weak opposition! If only Kohli's Test captains had treated him likewise (was averaging under 40 after 30 tests). Kohli's penchant for things going only his way. You are right the selections of Karun Nair & Kuldeep was one of the flashpoints between Kohli & Kumble which was reported later in the media.
Straight Drive Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 behti hawa sa tha woh ....udti patang sa tha woh..... kahan gaya usae dhoondo
R!TTER Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 25 minutes ago, Straight Drive said: behti hawa sa tha woh ....udti patang sa tha woh..... kahan gaya usae dhoondo
Straight Drive Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 4:58 AM, jf1gp_1 said: Was looking at his numbers in 7 test innings he has scored 374 runs. So 71 in 6 innings. Also Vihari and Gill are ahead of him for that middle order slot. 71 runs in 6 test innings is pathetic. Any idea who were the opponent bowlers in those tests.
R!TTER Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 Oz mostly, the same series where Brat was avg in single digits & Rahane had to captain the last test - which ensured Kuldeep played & we actually won!
Trichromatic Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 Rahane has played 48 matches since then averaging 33. Was Karun Nair worse than that?
Vickydev Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 There are much better domestic batters out there than the both of them. But yeah they dont play in IPL so no chance we will see them playing
Trichromatic Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 Number of sweeps and reverse sweeps which Nair played in innings of 303 - Kohli, Pujara and Rahane wouldn't have played that much in entire career. nevada, SRT100, SK_IH and 2 others 1 1 3
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Trichromatic said: Rahane has played 48 matches since then averaging 33. Was Karun Nair worse than that? Rahane is a better player but the thing he hasnt progressed rather declined over the years With Nair , he got hard done but man has he declined bad after that. His decline ever since has been so bad that he wnt even get in our C team now
Lord Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 17 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Rahane is a better player but the thing he hasnt progressed rather declined over the years With Nair , he got hard done but man has he declined bad after that. His decline ever since has been so bad that he wnt even get in our C team now mentally scarred after that drop.
Franco Vazquez Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 Hard to believe that he would do worse than Pujara and Rahane
Adamant Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Trichromatic said: Rahane has played 48 matches since then averaging 33. Was Karun Nair worse than that? He would have done better in Indian conditions but doubly worse in overseas, actually scratch that his domestic record these days suggest that even in home he would have been an abject failure.
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 42 minutes ago, Lord said: mentally scarred after that drop. I get its a setback but u gotta get over it coz international cricket is hard Why do i respect someone like Rahul, pant or have rated these guys so highly....even they had setback from this TM but time n again they came back . I dnt have much sympathy for nair or kuldeep coz they havent showed the mental strength to comeback from their hard times. U can blame TM till a time but what will u do when u get setbacks in international cricket...whom will u blame ? Lord 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 43 minutes ago, Franco Vazquez said: Hard to believe that he would do worse than Pujara and Rahane yes he wud have, he struggling to get runs in domestic...england wud have been a disastor Anyone can do worse coz anyone can get out on 0
New guy Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: yes he wud have, he struggling to get runs in domestic...england wud have been a disastor Anyone can do worse coz anyone can get out on 0 He had ONE bad series against Australia and that too only played 4 innings. Rahane pujara kohli all had recent bad series at home
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 Just now, New guy said: He had ONE bad series against Australia and that too only played 4 innings. Rahane pujara kohli all had recent bad series at home i agree, im saying he got hard done by TM but thats over now...whats in his hand is to go back n score runs and prove them wrong Players around the world has been hard done by KL, pant was....ganguly was at his time. U cant live in that ur whole life........... Take Fawad Alam case.....he has been hard done unlike anyone yet he kept piling mountain of runs in domestic Adamant, Vijy and New guy 3
rtmohanlal Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 the important point here is that proven one dimensional inadequacies like pujara, rahane, rohit etc get chances after chances where as rookies like Mayank, Karun , Vihari.Shaw etc get replaced temporarily or dropped for ever after not getting their deserving share of chances. Whether the experiment with these type of rookies become successful in the long run or not is another matter altogether. This trial and error method of providing adequate chances to promising youngsters until 'an all conditional multi dimensional TOP 7 with enough vareity is formed ' is not at all happening for some time now. Vijy 1
Vijy Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 Nair, IMO, was a fantastic player of spin at his best. but after his drop, even that skill declined (or got derailed). however, even when he was scoring lots of runs, I did not see him as a promising overseas bat. at that time (~5-6 yrs ago), I had more hopes for Bawne as an overseas batter but he faded away badly too
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