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11 for the 2nd Test at Christchurch 02/28/20


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Test starts on 28th .... Can't give up .... 60 points on the table .... my preferred team (from those in the squad :yawn2: ) 

 

Agarwal

Shaw

Pujara

Kohli

Gill

Pant - (looked among the best batsmen, along w/ Agarwal .... both of them positive players) 

Ashwin/Jadeja

Ishant

Shami

Saini

Bumrah 

 

  • No point in strengthening the batting with weak/struggling batmen 
  • Additional bowler to go for 20 wkts (missing Pandya here, who can bat with an aggressive mindset) 
  • If possible, fly Pandya in (if fit) 

 

 

Come on India :cheer:

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Agarwal

Shaw

Pujara

Kohli

Rahane

Gill

Pant

Ashwin

Shami

Ishant

Bumrah.

 

Vihari will not cut it against Wagner, only place he can be tried is as opener to blunt out the new ball but then again would like to see Shaw given one more chance.

Posted

Mayank

Vihari

Pujara

Kohli

Rahane

Gill

Pant

Saini

Ishant

Umesh

Bumrah 

 

Shami looks done and dusted. 

 

Shaw is not good enough. I know it's too early but no point in playing someone who's guaranteed not to last more than 20 balls at the crease. 

 

No need for any spinner just for the sake of it. 

 

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Shaw needs to be shown the door, playing with 5 bowlers/AR+ 4 pacers is a recipe for disaster. We need 6 batsmen for sure, arguably the biggest issue is the toss. In NZ, much like Eng, conditions can change massively between innings or when there's clouds overhead.

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4 minutes ago, Norman said:

Mayank

Vihari

Pujara

Kohli

Rahane

Gill

Pant

Saini

Ishant

Umesh

Bumrah 

 

Shami looks done and dusted. 

 

Shaw is not good enough. I know it's too early but no point in playing someone who's guaranteed not to last more than 20 balls at the crease. 

 

No need for any spinner just for the sake of it. 

 

Spinner would be needed in hagley oval. Check the scores. Its always high scoring. In that respect, we would need ashwin. I dont know how, but somehow we need to strengthen the opening. Could be mayank and gill or vihari at top, jadeja in the middle. Shaw is completely exposed in these conditions.

Posted (edited)

Mayank

Shaw 

Pujara

Kohli 

Rahane (Won't be dropped since he is VC)

Gill 

Pant

Umesh (Want to see if he has improved.He is an all-rounder)

Saini

Ishant

Shami/Bumrah (Shami & Bumrah have been ineffective this tour.)

 

This tail is much better.

Edited by diehardpacer
Removed Jadeja & included Saini.
Posted
18 minutes ago, SrinjayDutta said:

Spinner would be needed in hagley oval. Check the scores. Its always high scoring. In that respect, we would need ashwin. I dont know how, but somehow we need to strengthen the opening. Could be mayank and gill or vihari at top, jadeja in the middle. Shaw is completely exposed in these conditions.

That's what we thought about the Basin reserve too that the second innings scores will be  500-600 but look what happened. Don't know how many games  it'd take for us to know that spinners are useless outside Asia. Even in this Test, if we had Umesh/Saini we'd have probably gotten them to a lower score. 

Posted
33 minutes ago, Audiophile said:

Take Shaw out and some how for Rahul in. Also out for Ashwin. Shami may have hit zenith already and is on his way down. God knows he is 10 years older than advertised.

Why would you take darter jadeja over to Ashwin.i think Ashwin has done fairly well in this match got 3 wickets in second innings. If you want to strengthen the batting then both are useless. Would prefer Sani in place of Ashwin if Nz served same type of pitch. 

Posted
56 minutes ago, Ajju said:

Pls keep only 1 frm Pujara vihari rahane from the team. Not able to watch their batting together 

Apparently rahane batted with momentum according to captain clown. I wonder if it was momentum in rahanes bowels because his batting didn’t feel that way

Posted (edited)

I don't think Vihari will make it as a test player and I thought that at the beginning, but we can't drop him imo. I don't feel it sends out the right message to a new player. We made him open in Australia and also he scored runs in WI.  Give him one more game I think it's fair. The main reason for the loss is again Shastri and Kohli, just negative brainless atmosphere devoid of planning and intensity. That and we couldn't play swing in the first innings and the top 4 are to blame there. After that we gave up. and of course have a long tail. Unfortunate we have a player like Bumrah (as good as he was with the ball) I think he bats like a 5 year old, old days of classic no.11.  

 

I would select same again and give them opportunity to rectify error. I would just drop Rahane because I think he is a pathetic player with poor returns. Can't bat in India and I am sick of all this green pitch specialist stuff. He rarely goes big. Time to end his career and phase him out like with his limited overs career.  We are also missing a swing bowler perhaps in the squad. Ashwin bowled well and I would choose him next game over Jaddu (difficult choice) but he needs to deliver as AR too. Pujara needs to bat with intensity rather than suck the momentum out. I don't believe Yadav or Saini would do much different here. Shami is a top bowler but had a very bad game and Bumrah's form is worrying but we have to hope for best. Shaw's dismissal was school boy but again, give him the series to learn. It's not like Rohit is in the squad and by seniority gets in...Gill is also young and getting low scores in NZ warm ups. I would put him in at 5 for now.

 

Shaw, Agarwal, Pujara, Kohli, Gill, Vihari, Pant, Ashwin, Shami, Ishant, Bumrah

 

We need to fire Shastri and Kohli as skipper.

 

 

 

 

Edited by ViruDilSeKhelo
Posted (edited)

The more I see Pant batting in tests, somehow he reminds me of Viru. Not saying in terms of runs scored or technique but aggression and his method for tests. He can block at will but also find gaps and boundaries within a few overs versus any of the bowlers. Difficult to set a field too and he can hurt you, even just that fear allows him to milk singles like Sehwag. I feel just like Sehwag, Pant will be a better test batsman than in limited overs, even though you expect such players to do better in odi/t20.  They benefit from the gaps in a typical test field over an "in and out" ODI field, also they try too hard in limited overs with their aggression.  It's time for Saha to always be number 2. He is older and yes a very good keeper but Pant is the future and has the right fearless mentality and talent for runs low down the order. I think he will eventually become a "safe" keeper and this is enough.

Edited by ViruDilSeKhelo
Posted
17 minutes ago, ganeshran said:

We need to give Shaw some more chances. It would be cruel to just write off the kid after one failed series.  He has technical issues but those can be worked on. 

Yes. And only played 20 odd matches in FC, Indian conditions! For once I agree with Kohli, Shaw can score big so let him find his feet in international cricket. Playing in NZ is not easy first time round for a 20 year old rookie.

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