BacktoCricaddict Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Inspired by @Trichromatic's thread about world's all time best ODI bowler, I was wondering about the best Indian ODI bowler (Not LOIs, so don't include T20). Consider ER, SR, impact performances, contributions to ICC tourney or significant series wins against top teams, number of wkts, and longevity. I am going solely off my subjective memory. Contenders (in no particular order): Zaheer Khan Kapil Dev Anil Kumble Javagal Srinath Ajit Agarkar Jasprit Bumrah (too early to tell)? Any one missing? . . . . . . .. . . Honorable mention to Stuart Binny for his 4.2-2-4-6 performance :-). Link to comment
Adamant Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Our bowling history is so bad that bumrah already is the best bowler. express bowling and Cricketics 2 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Shami and Bumrah. Zak would be ahead for his WC performances speedheat 1 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Praveen Kumar who can swing both ways OpeningBatsman 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Player Span Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI Avehttp://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/blackArrowUp.gif Econ SR 4 5 JJ Bumrah 2016-2020 64 64 3346 2541 104 5/27 24.43 4.55 32.1 5 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Mohammed Shami 2013-2020 77 76 3930 3661 144 5/69 25.42 5.58 27.2 9 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Kuldeep Yadav 2017-2020 60 58 3192 2721 104 6/25 26.16 5.11 30.6 4 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif N Kapil Dev 1978-1994 225 221 11202 6945 253 5/43 27.45 3.71 44.2 3 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif AB Agarkar 1998-2007 191 188 9484 8021 288 6/42 27.85 5.07 32.9 10 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif J Srinath 1991-2003 229 227 11935 8847 315 5/23 28.08 4.44 37.8 7 3 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif M Prabhakar 1984-1996 130 127 6360 4534 157 5/33 28.87 4.27 40.5 4 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif IK Pathan 2004-2012 120 118 5855 5142 173 5/27 29.72 5.26 33.8 5 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Z Khan 2000-2012 194 191 9815 8102 269 5/42 30.11 4.95 36.4 7 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif A Kumble 1990-2007 269 263 14376 10300 334 6/12 30.83 4.29 43.0 8 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif I Sharma 2007-2016 80 78 3733 3563 115 4/34 30.98 5.72 32.4 6 0 saik and BacktoCricaddict 1 1 Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I have not seen Kapil Paaji bowl live but Srinath was my personal favorite. Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 32 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said: I have not seen Kapil Paaji bowl live but Srinath was my personal favorite. If he and Zaheer had not laid eggs in that WC 2003 final, I'd feel much better about them overall. Unfortunately, such high-stakes encounters weigh more for these discussions. Link to comment
Majestic Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Kapil Dev but Bumrah looks set to overtake him. Our bowling attack in all time Indian ODIs XI will be:- 7)Kapil Dev 8)Anil Kumble 9) Mohammad Shami 10) Zaheer Khan/Srinath(probably Zaheer because of aesthetics) 11) Mohammad Shami Btw, what about Yuzvendra Chahal in LOIs? He has about same wickets as Bumrah in ODI format and we do consider picking Bumrah. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 13 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said: I have not seen Kapil Paaji bowl live but Srinath was my personal favorite. 13 hours ago, Trichromatic said: Player Span Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI Avehttp://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/blackArrowUp.gif Econ SR 4 5 JJ Bumrah 2016-2020 64 64 3346 2541 104 5/27 24.43 4.55 32.1 5 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Mohammed Shami 2013-2020 77 76 3930 3661 144 5/69 25.42 5.58 27.2 9 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Kuldeep Yadav 2017-2020 60 58 3192 2721 104 6/25 26.16 5.11 30.6 4 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif N Kapil Dev 1978-1994 225 221 11202 6945 253 5/43 27.45 3.71 44.2 3 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif AB Agarkar 1998-2007 191 188 9484 8021 288 6/42 27.85 5.07 32.9 10 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif J Srinath 1991-2003 229 227 11935 8847 315 5/23 28.08 4.44 37.8 7 3 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif M Prabhakar 1984-1996 130 127 6360 4534 157 5/33 28.87 4.27 40.5 4 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif IK Pathan 2004-2012 120 118 5855 5142 173 5/27 29.72 5.26 33.8 5 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Z Khan 2000-2012 194 191 9815 8102 269 5/42 30.11 4.95 36.4 7 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif A Kumble 1990-2007 269 263 14376 10300 334 6/12 30.83 4.29 43.0 8 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif I Sharma 2007-2016 80 78 3733 3563 115 4/34 30.98 5.72 32.4 6 0 Where is Chahal? Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Where is Chahal? Ye to pick 100 wickets. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Name is Bumrah ... Jasprit Bumrah ! Link to comment
Stan AF Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Anil Kumble doesn't belong in this list. Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Has to be Kumble. In 90s India were 1 batsman and 1 bowler team. People look at his overseas numbers and pass judgement. Look at the garbage which was being dished out at the other end on seaming wickets. I remember a test in NZ where he bowled more than our fast bowlers. He was king at home, improved his overseas record in later year when he started getting some support and lets not forget ODIs, again 90s his 10overs ending without wickets would literally mean end of India defending any total. Pickup any score card from that era, i am willing to bet every second wins, would be thanks to kumble, irrespective of format. He is our highest wicket taker and you dont have to look beyond him. sandsaims 1 Link to comment
MechEng Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Zaheer Khan easily, ahead of Bumrah and Shami. He won important games on his own, who can forget that knuckle ball to Hussey in 2011 World Cup? In tests, it's a no contest. Shami way ahead of Zak, and Bumrah leagues ahead. Link to comment
OpeningBatsman Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) In odis I would pick Bhajji over Kumble. Just my preference. Both of them avg in 30s and have exact same economy rate (4.31) but bhajji played much more into the "batting era" with higher par score. I think kumble, especially after his comeback in 2000, was pretty mediocre in odis. I know bhajji is a villain here in icf Other than that, Bumrah. But would like to see him play more atleast 100 odis. Second pick Shami. Edited October 20, 2020 by OpeningBatsman Link to comment
OpeningBatsman Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) On 10/16/2020 at 7:37 PM, Trichromatic said: Player Span Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI Avehttp://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/blackArrowUp.gif Econ SR 4 5 JJ Bumrah 2016-2020 64 64 3346 2541 104 5/27 24.43 4.55 32.1 5 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Mohammed Shami 2013-2020 77 76 3930 3661 144 5/69 25.42 5.58 27.2 9 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Kuldeep Yadav 2017-2020 60 58 3192 2721 104 6/25 26.16 5.11 30.6 4 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif N Kapil Dev 1978-1994 225 221 11202 6945 253 5/43 27.45 3.71 44.2 3 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif AB Agarkar 1998-2007 191 188 9484 8021 288 6/42 27.85 5.07 32.9 10 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif J Srinath 1991-2003 229 227 11935 8847 315 5/23 28.08 4.44 37.8 7 3 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif M Prabhakar 1984-1996 130 127 6360 4534 157 5/33 28.87 4.27 40.5 4 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif IK Pathan 2004-2012 120 118 5855 5142 173 5/27 29.72 5.26 33.8 5 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Z Khan 2000-2012 194 191 9815 8102 269 5/42 30.11 4.95 36.4 7 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif A Kumble 1990-2007 269 263 14376 10300 334 6/12 30.83 4.29 43.0 8 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif I Sharma 2007-2016 80 78 3733 3563 115 4/34 30.98 5.72 32.4 6 0 Harbhajan?? Cmon if you put Ishant in there deftly bhajji deserves to be in there too. Maybe u ignored him coz of his bowling avg? Edited October 20, 2020 by OpeningBatsman Link to comment
OpeningBatsman Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, OpeningBatsman said: In odis I would pick Bhajji over Kumble. Just my preference. Both of them avg in 30s and have exact same economy rate (4.31) but bhajji played much more into the "batting era" with higher par score. I think kumble, especially after his comeback in 2000, was pretty mediocre in odis. I know bhajji is a villain here in icf (WOULDNT PICK EITHER OF THEM IN MY TOP LIST) Other than that, Bumrah. But would like to see him play more atleast 100 odis. Second pick Shami. Was tempted to put zak over shami but Shami's avg and wicket taking ability is too hard to ignore. Edited October 20, 2020 by OpeningBatsman Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, OpeningBatsman said: Was tempted to put zak over shami but Shami's avg and wicket taking ability is too hard to ignore. guess who ignores him our captain OpeningBatsman 1 Link to comment
OpeningBatsman Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: guess who ignores him our captain Yes. Every single time. For someone who's known as a fast bowler's captain it's shocking how he picks guys like shardul and even bhuvi ahead of Shami and that too in important games. Ct and wc comes to mind. raki05 and express bowling 2 Link to comment
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