randomGuy Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Under_Score said: It has been a terrible last few days, a sudden demise of our immediate family member was too shocking & overwhelming. My mom left our family on Jan 24th after complications occurred during her kidney dialysis. The funeral is scheduled for the weekend. I have to mention that...for many other people like me who whole heartedly supported the farmers in this 'Kisan Andolan', it was deeply disturbing to see the events that unfolded during the Tractor Rally. God knows what is the truth behind all this & what will be the outcome of the Farmer's Rally from now on. My heart goes out to all the farmers who braved the bitter winter & gave their lives at the border camps. I strongly condemn the hoisting of the 'Sikhi' flag on the Redfort. The cultprit & his goons who defied the orders of the Farmer leaders should be thrown in jail . I'm done with this topic. Time to break away from all the negative energy. Stay safe. Sorry to hear this. Om Shanti. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Just because one or two flags have Khalistan written on it, doesn't give you license to insult a Sikh flag with Khanda on it. Stop spewing your hatred for Sikhism under the garb of few idiotic protestors. You can tolerate insult on your faith its upto you, but don't assume that others are okay with it. Who are you to give Rishi status to Sikh Guru's? You beghairat insaan.One or two flags? LolChutiye, did you see them drive tractors in public? Riding on horses brandishing swords and spears and daggers?Do you have no shame ? Are you supporting this?It's good that chewts like you are in Kaneda beetle and Legendary_Bhakt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Chalo drama is ending.Modi govt should give face saving to the unions that have withdrawn and punish the assholes still protesting quickly coffee_rules, beetle and ravishingravi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 There are two aspects or groups to these protests A) Kisan unions who were basically spearheaded by the commies in disguise. The political heirs of cpm supreme harkishan surjeet. These people found cpm was politically unelectable as they lacked base in panthic/religious dogma or caste and instead for the past 25 years worked with farmer unions forming a syndicate of middlemen. B) The panthic faction who saw this as a battle for sikhs. Most are not khalistani but view protests through the prism of religion. Drew support from Nri sikhs. Group A) stuck to the peaceful protest and was more organised and disciplined. B) was all about point scoring and violence which led to the actions at red fort Eventually there would also be a diversion in actions.... coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaloo Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Under_Score said: It has been a terrible last few days, a sudden demise of our immediate family member was too shocking & overwhelming. My mom left our family on Jan 24th after complications occurred during her kidney dialysis. The funeral is scheduled for the weekend. I have to mention that...for many other people like me who whole heartedly supported the farmers in this 'Kisan Andolan', it was deeply disturbing to see the events that unfolded during the Tractor Rally. God knows what is the truth behind all this & what will be the outcome of the Farmer's Rally from now on. My heart goes out to all the farmers who braved the bitter winter & gave their lives at the border camps. I strongly condemn the hoisting of the 'Sikhi' flag on the Redfort. The cultprit & his goons who defied the orders of the Farmer leaders should be thrown in jail . I'm done with this topic. Time to break away from all the negative energy. Stay safe. Sorry for your loss man. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vayuu1 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Under_Score said: It has been a terrible last few days, a sudden demise of our immediate family member was too shocking & overwhelming. My mom left our family on Jan 24th after complications occurred during her kidney dialysis. The funeral is scheduled for the weekend. I have to mention that...for many other people like me who whole heartedly supported the farmers in this 'Kisan Andolan', it was deeply disturbing to see the events that unfolded during the Tractor Rally. God knows what is the truth behind all this & what will be the outcome of the Farmer's Rally from now on. My heart goes out to all the farmers who braved the bitter winter & gave their lives at the border camps. I strongly condemn the hoisting of the 'Sikhi' flag on the Redfort. The cultprit & his goons who defied the orders of the Farmer leaders should be thrown in jail . I'm done with this topic. Time to break away from all the negative energy. Stay safe. Om shanti beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 hours ago, G_B_ said: There are two aspects or groups to these protests A) Kisan unions who were basically spearheaded by the commies in disguise. The political heirs of cpm supreme harkishan surjeet. These people found cpm was politically unelectable as they lacked base in panthic/religious dogma or caste and instead for the past 25 years worked with farmer unions forming a syndicate of middlemen. B) The panthic faction who saw this as a battle for sikhs. Most are not khalistani but view protests through the prism of religion. Drew support from Nri sikhs. Group A) stuck to the peaceful protest and was more organised and disciplined. B) was all about point scoring and violence which led to the actions at red fort Eventually there would also be a diversion in actions.... Way some farmers conducted themselves on 26th is deplorable. The ones who broke the law should be punished to the fullest extent. There is never ever any room for violence. If they are peaceful and persuasive they wil have sympathy otherwise they will lose the cause. A) Not all unions are communist. Some may be. But underline issue still is poverty and a poor outlook for farmers. The only solution is for govet. to soften the blow of collapse of Mandi system but I dont see any solution. B) Sikhs are a smalll community and predominantly in transportation or farming. They are not as educated as their southern brothers but it takes time to catch up. Being a small community gurudwaras play an important role as they have lack of trust with political parties. It may look religious but in the end do not forget it is an economic struggle. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 hours ago, Under_Score said: It has been a terrible last few days, a sudden demise of our immediate family member was too shocking & overwhelming. My mom left our family on Jan 24th after complications occurred during her kidney dialysis. The funeral is scheduled for the weekend. I have to mention that...for many other people like me who whole heartedly supported the farmers in this 'Kisan Andolan', it was deeply disturbing to see the events that unfolded during the Tractor Rally. God knows what is the truth behind all this & what will be the outcome of the Farmer's Rally from now on. My heart goes out to all the farmers who braved the bitter winter & gave their lives at the border camps. I strongly condemn the hoisting of the 'Sikhi' flag on the Redfort. The cultprit & his goons who defied the orders of the Farmer leaders should be thrown in jail . I'm done with this topic. Time to break away from all the negative energy. Stay safe. Sincere condolences and sorry for your loss. Losing a parent is not easy and words dont make any difference but I do feel your pain. beetle and coffee_rules 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texy Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 So sry to hear this Under Bhai! May She rest in peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Khota said: Way some farmers conducted themselves on 26th is deplorable. The ones who broke the law should be punished to the fullest extent. There is never ever any room for violence. If they are peaceful and persuasive they wil have sympathy otherwise they will lose the cause. A) Not all unions are communist. Some may be. But underline issue still is poverty and a poor outlook for farmers. The only solution is for govet. to soften the blow of collapse of Mandi system but I dont see any solution. B) Sikhs are a smalll community and predominantly in transportation or farming. They are not as educated as their southern brothers but it takes time to catch up. Being a small community gurudwaras play an important role as they have lack of trust with political parties. It may look religious but in the end do not forget it is an economic struggle. Not all protesting farmers. This is a result of politics mingled with actual kisan protestors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Under_Score said: It has been a terrible last few days, a sudden demise of our immediate family member was too shocking & overwhelming. My mom left our family on Jan 24th after complications occurred during her kidney dialysis. The funeral is scheduled for the weekend. I have to mention that...for many other people like me who whole heartedly supported the farmers in this 'Kisan Andolan', it was deeply disturbing to see the events that unfolded during the Tractor Rally. God knows what is the truth behind all this & what will be the outcome of the Farmer's Rally from now on. My heart goes out to all the farmers who braved the bitter winter & gave their lives at the border camps. I strongly condemn the hoisting of the 'Sikhi' flag on the Redfort. The cultprit & his goons who defied the orders of the Farmer leaders should be thrown in jail . I'm done with this topic. Time to break away from all the negative energy. Stay safe. Sorry for your this massive loss, buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Under_Score said: It has been a terrible last few days, a sudden demise of our immediate family member was too shocking & overwhelming. My mom left our family on Jan 24th after complications occurred during her kidney dialysis. The funeral is scheduled for the weekend. I have to mention that...for many other people like me who whole heartedly supported the farmers in this 'Kisan Andolan', it was deeply disturbing to see the events that unfolded during the Tractor Rally. God knows what is the truth behind all this & what will be the outcome of the Farmer's Rally from now on. My heart goes out to all the farmers who braved the bitter winter & gave their lives at the border camps. I strongly condemn the hoisting of the 'Sikhi' flag on the Redfort. The cultprit & his goons who defied the orders of the Farmer leaders should be thrown in jail . I'm done with this topic. Time to break away from all the negative energy. Stay safe. Really sorry for your loss. Stay strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 hours ago, Khota said: Way some farmers conducted themselves on 26th is deplorable. The ones who broke the law should be punished to the fullest extent. There is never ever any room for violence. If they are peaceful and persuasive they wil have sympathy otherwise they will lose the cause. A) Not all unions are communist. Some may be. But underline issue still is poverty and a poor outlook for farmers. The only solution is for govet. to soften the blow of collapse of Mandi system but I dont see any solution. B) Sikhs are a smalll community and predominantly in transportation or farming. They are not as educated as their southern brothers but it takes time to catch up. Being a small community gurudwaras play an important role as they have lack of trust with political parties. It may look religious but in the end do not forget it is an economic struggle. I would say its an combination of both. A struggle based on an economic stuggle (in their minds) defined by their religious identity. I would also argue political parties such as the Akali dal are deeply entrenched in the Gurudwaras in India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan AF Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 16 hours ago, Under_Score said: It has been a terrible last few days, a sudden demise of our immediate family member was too shocking & overwhelming. My mom left our family on Jan 24th after complications occurred during her kidney dialysis. The funeral is scheduled for the weekend. I have to mention that...for many other people like me who whole heartedly supported the farmers in this 'Kisan Andolan', it was deeply disturbing to see the events that unfolded during the Tractor Rally. God knows what is the truth behind all this & what will be the outcome of the Farmer's Rally from now on. My heart goes out to all the farmers who braved the bitter winter & gave their lives at the border camps. I strongly condemn the hoisting of the 'Sikhi' flag on the Redfort. The cultprit & his goons who defied the orders of the Farmer leaders should be thrown in jail . I'm done with this topic. Time to break away from all the negative energy. Stay safe. Sorry for your loss brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendary_Bhakt Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 17 hours ago, Under_Score said: It has been a terrible last few days, a sudden demise of our immediate family member was too shocking & overwhelming. My mom left our family on Jan 24th after complications occurred during her kidney dialysis. The funeral is scheduled for the weekend. I have to mention that...for many other people like me who whole heartedly supported the farmers in this 'Kisan Andolan', it was deeply disturbing to see the events that unfolded during the Tractor Rally. God knows what is the truth behind all this & what will be the outcome of the Farmer's Rally from now on. My heart goes out to all the farmers who braved the bitter winter & gave their lives at the border camps. I strongly condemn the hoisting of the 'Sikhi' flag on the Redfort. The cultprit & his goons who defied the orders of the Farmer leaders should be thrown in jail . I'm done with this topic. Time to break away from all the negative energy. Stay safe. Om Shanti.. Stay strong brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 18 hours ago, Under_Score said: It has been a terrible last few days, a sudden demise of our immediate family member was too shocking & overwhelming. My mom left our family on Jan 24th after complications occurred during her kidney dialysis. The funeral is scheduled for the weekend. I have to mention that...for many other people like me who whole heartedly supported the farmers in this 'Kisan Andolan', it was deeply disturbing to see the events that unfolded during the Tractor Rally. God knows what is the truth behind all this & what will be the outcome of the Farmer's Rally from now on. My heart goes out to all the farmers who braved the bitter winter & gave their lives at the border camps. I strongly condemn the hoisting of the 'Sikhi' flag on the Redfort. The cultprit & his goons who defied the orders of the Farmer leaders should be thrown in jail . I'm done with this topic. Time to break away from all the negative energy. Stay safe. Putting everything aside. I am sorry for your loss. I hope you and your family are keeping strong. Om shanti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 18 hours ago, Under_Score said: It has been a terrible last few days, a sudden demise of our immediate family member was too shocking & overwhelming. My mom left our family on Jan 24th after complications occurred during her kidney dialysis. The funeral is scheduled for the weekend. I have to mention that...for many other people like me who whole heartedly supported the farmers in this 'Kisan Andolan', it was deeply disturbing to see the events that unfolded during the Tractor Rally. God knows what is the truth behind all this & what will be the outcome of the Farmer's Rally from now on. My heart goes out to all the farmers who braved the bitter winter & gave their lives at the border camps. I strongly condemn the hoisting of the 'Sikhi' flag on the Redfort. The cultprit & his goons who defied the orders of the Farmer leaders should be thrown in jail . I'm done with this topic. Time to break away from all the negative energy. Stay safe. Bhai, Om Shanti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, rkt.india said: Not all protesting farmers. This is a result of politics mingled with actual kisan protestors That has always been the case in India. I can shoe you clips od Sushma and jaitley protesting againstthe same farm laws that their government have passed. It is always politics first for some. BJP, congress, AAp are all the same. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 @Under_Score Sorry for your loss . May she rest in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 hours ago, G_B_ said: I would say its an combination of both. A struggle based on an economic stuggle (in their minds) defined by their religious identity. I would also argue political parties such as the Akali dal are deeply entrenched in the Gurudwaras in India. Akalis are entrenched buttheir influence is waning. badals have made money for themselves only without thinking about the common person. Lot of people trust Kejriwal more than some of the buffoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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