maniac Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 Washington and Nadeem. Really? Don’t rate Axar the darter either but after Jadeja’s success never say never. Where is the rich legacy of spinners? RAZPOR 1
R!TTER Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 Jadeja isn't just a darter, like I said in the other he's *in smart. In the last series he dragged Cook off & further outside then ripped in a few right on to the stumps. I'd argue he's smarter than Ashwin with the ball though slightly less skillful nevada, raki05 and BacktoCricaddict 3
R!TTER Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 Did I mention some of those pitches were even flatter, than this Chennai one! raki05 1
Majestic Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 Jadeja on these wickets would have been useful. He always takes wickets when it matters and this is a kind of pitch where Jadeja would have overshadowed Ashwin. We are missing Jadeja. Without him, we do not hold the same authority in home conditions as we did in last 7-8 years. raki05, nevada and BacktoCricaddict 1 2
The Realist Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 Where are the young spinners coming through? If a 30 something journeyman like Nadeem is the answer then the cupboard is not only bare but falling off its hinges. Vickydev, raki05 and Cricspin 3
Sandeep99 Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 If Nadeem is the 3rd best finer spinner in the country, we have NO HOPE. This guy should be nowhere near the test team.
Bhoot Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) Is Sai Kishore any good.? K. Gotham is too old now. Edited February 5, 2021 by Bhoot
Vickydev Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 Nadeem looked so undercooked. For an experienced bloke his action was all over the place at times. And he has over 400 wickets in First Class. We havent produced a finger spinning prospect in a while..If not for Jadeja turning beast mode,the options we have post Ashwin's emergence have been underwhelming. BacktoCricaddict and anish2tweet 1 1
Real McCoy Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 bit of an overreaction. this pitch was basically a road further compounded by clueless captaincy. Nadeem is a good spinner but I don't understand why Kuldeep didn't play today. LSRK sounded a bit sad today lol raki05 1
prudent_kreeda Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Vickydev said: Nadeem looked so undercooked. For an experienced bloke his action was all over the place at times. And he has over 400 wickets in First Class. We havent produced a finger spinning prospect in a while..If not for Jadeja turning beast mode,the options we have post Ashwin's emergence have been underwhelming. I feel he has gone down performance wise . Proof -Not even getting a chance in IPL team. When you lose the bite , you become half the bowler you are. may be past his peak. May need to look at Axar, Saurabh for future.
AuxiliA Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) It's extremely disrespectful to call Jadeja just a 'darter'. The guy has 200+ wks at an avg of 24 and has played all over the world by now. Same with Ashwin who averages 25. How many 'legendary' spinners of the past have that kind of stats? Our insane home dominance isn't for granted. It is only made possible by the once in a lifetime duo of spin-bowling all rounders. All the Kuldeeps, Sundars,Nadeems, etc have massive shoes to fill. Edited February 5, 2021 by AuxiliA Vk1, putrevus, Gollum and 6 others 2 4 3
BacktoCricaddict Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 2 hours ago, R!TTER said: Jadeja isn't just a darter, like I said in the other he's *in smart. In the last series he dragged Cook off & further outside then ripped in a few right on to the stumps. I'd argue he's smarter than Ashwin with the ball though slightly less skillful Jadeja is a national treasure. A supreme, athletic fighter. anish2tweet, raki05 and Vickydev 1 2
Gollum Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) Talk about overreaction Just day 1 of a 4 test series, super flat conditions against one of the all time greats against spin at his peak. Seriously though Smith, Root and Pujara are 3 modern day greats as capable against spin as the likes of Viru, Sanga, Lara, Younis etc. Opponents won't roll over, and that makes the contest so much more exiting. Credit to England, they have come well prepared with that series in SL, long enough to get used to spinning conditions but not too draining. Far better than 13 vs 13 warmups against Board President's team or India A. We will come back stronger and on this patta, good luck bowling to Rohit, Gill, Che, VK, Pant..... Edited February 5, 2021 by Gollum BacktoCricaddict and Frustrated 2
BacktoCricaddict Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, AuxiliA said: It's extremely disrespectful to call Jadeja just a 'darter'. The guy has 200 wks at an avg of 24 and has played all over the world by now. Same with Ashwin who averages 25. How many 'legendary' spinners of the past have that kind of stats? Our insane home dominance isn't for granted. It is only made possible by the once in a lifetime duo of spin-bowling all rounders. All the Kuldeeps, Sundars,Nadeems, etc have massive shoes to fill. Well Nadeem may be new, but he is almost as old as Jadeja. He's not going to fill those shoes. Kuldeep? Maybe. We should be looking to some of the younger players - Anukul Roy comes to mind. Being with a truly professional unit like the Mumbai Indians will help him hone his all-round skills. Edited February 5, 2021 by BacktoCricaddict
Lone Wolf Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 Didn't realize Nadeem was 31 year old.. Lol wtf is wrong with Indian selectors? TM is as usual dumb. If you wanna give a chance to someone think for long term ffs. Either Kuldeep or Rahul Chahar should be given chances in coming games. Hopefully Axar gets fit as well. Cupboard isn't bare I think. Sai Kishore Bishnoi, Anukul Roy are decent options Tbf. Bishnoi can be India's best ever leggie since Kumble. raki05 and maniac 2
Gollum Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) Though OP has a point, replacing Ash-Jaddu won't be easy. We take these 2 legends for granted, we take our insane home dominance for granted, inferiority complex ridden neech Indians will parrot Baki, Sky lines to underplay our feats, our guys, our home record etc...*ing clowns. We may not see another duo like this playing for India for another 20 years, enjoy while it lasts. Both complement each other so beautifully, one of the greatest joys in cricket is watching them in tandem. While individually both are great, what they do as a combo is even better, like Goku-Vegeta fusion. And what's with this silly underrating of Jaddu, granted he is more in the McGrath or Kumble mode and I fully understand that such kind of bowling may not be the most exciting spectacle for majority viewers, but doing what they do is so tough and underappreciated. Ashwin is a Viper, but Jaddu the Boa Constrictor has his own method to strangulate batsmen, damn effective. Not even going to debate about his status in Indian cricket since it is so disrespectful, but even for his worst critics he will be part of AT Indian squad by the time he is done and probably the only Indian cricketer worthy enough to replace Kapil in certain conditions. Edited February 5, 2021 by Gollum Vickydev, maniac, Vk1 and 4 others 4 2 1
Vickydev Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 49 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said: I feel he has gone down performance wise . Proof -Not even getting a chance in IPL team. When you lose the bite , you become half the bowler you are. may be past his peak. May need to look at Axar, Saurabh for future. Saurabh Kumar is good. He needs to be looked at
BacktoCricaddict Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Gollum said: Though OP has a point, replacing Ash-Jaddu won't be easy. We take these 2 legends for granted, we take our insane home dominance for granted, inferiority complex ridden neech Indians will parrot Baki, Sky lines to underplay our feats, our guys, our home record etc...*ing clowns. We may not see another duo like this playing for India for another 20 years, enjoy while it lasts. Both complement each other so beautifully, one of the greatest joys in cricket is watching them in tandem. While individually both are great, what they do as a combo is even better, like Goku-Vegeta fusion. And what's with this silly underrating of Jaddu, granted he is more in the McGrath or Kumble mode and that may not be the most exciting to watch, but doing what they do is so tough and underappreciated. Ashwin is a Viper, but Jaddu the Boa Constrictor has his own method to strangulate batsmen, damn effective. Not even going to debate about his status in Indian cricket since it is so disrespectful, but even for his worst critics he will be part of AT Indian squad by the time he is done and probably the only Indian cricketer worthy enough to replace Kapil in certain conditions. I don't know who Goku and Vegeta are, but loved this post anyway :-)!! Gollum 1
putrevus Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 Only morons like Manju disrespect Jadeja. He is one of best spinners in India better than Bishen Bedi as he has that ability to extract life from a flat pitch. I don't think Axar or nadeem are even 10% Jadeja. That said Nadeem has to do better, this has to be one of the worst performance by spinner in India. BacktoCricaddict 1
BacktoCricaddict Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Vickydev said: Saurabh Kumar is good. He needs to be looked at He needs to change his name. I associate the name Saurabh with healthy waistlines: Or the guy on the right here: Edited February 5, 2021 by BacktoCricaddict Vickydev 1
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