Pujara's dedication to tests and team Ind

[R!TTER]

3 minutes ago, Serpico said:

Only crossed 50 thrice in 18 innings and played around 68 balls per innings.

How come 18 innings? He's just played 8 test innings in Eng, a stress free 50 - in large part due to his bowling admittedly. Did I mention the fact that batting was relatively easier down the order because the ball got old, big reason why Curran & Buttle scored so many runs!  Now take that 3rd test way & he's got literally tailender like stats -

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Primary team England or India

Opposition team England or India

Start of match date between 1 Feb 2018 and 1 Jan 2021

Batting position between 4 and 8

Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 150

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Overall figures

Player	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
V Kohli (INDIA)	5	10	0	593	149	59.30	1025	57.85	2	3	1	67	1
AM Rahane (INDIA)	5	10	0	257	81	25.70	639	40.21	0	2	1	27	0
BA Stokes (ENG)	4	8	0	200	62	25.00	519	38.53	0	1	0	22	1
JC Buttler (ENG)	5	9	0	349	106	38.77	515	67.76	1	2	2	44	4
SM Curran (ENG)	4	7	0	272	78	38.85	436	62.38	0	2	1	32	5
JM Bairstow (ENG)	5	9	0	230	93	25.55	362	63.53	0	2	3	32	0
HH Pandya (INDIA)	4	8	1	164	52*	23.42	288	56.94	0	1	1	26	1
JE Root (ENG)	2	3	0	173	125	57.66	281	61.56	1	0	1	18	1
RR Pant (INDIA)	3	6	0	162	114	27.00	252	64.28	1	0	1	20	6

Edited February 22, 2021 by R!TTER

[zen]

8 minutes ago, Serpico said:

I am talking about his overall record in England. Only crossed 50 thrice in 18 innings and played around 68 balls per innings. We didn't win either of the series anyway

 

Pujara has turned it around as a top order batsman with his recent performance in Eng, back to back series performances in Aus (that inning at Adelaide in 2018!), and in NZ in tough conditions, getting out to good balls

 

 

 

Edited February 22, 2021 by zen

[zen]

At the moment, my AT Ind 11 would be something like below (from players across the eras):

 

• #1-3: Gavaskar, Sehwag & Pujara 
• #4-5: 2 from Dravid, Sachin, Kohli, VVS, ... (all are good batsmen so anyone can be slotted in)
• #6: Reserved for batting AR -> Mankad (Ind's biggest match winner in terms of avg difference in matches won. 100s in Aus and Eng. Can open the batting too so good when facing the 2nd new ball. If he bowled on rank turners, his bowling avg would be better too. A thread on him) 
• #7: WK AR -> Pant (the new boy) or Engineer (opened for India in many games so good with facing the 2nd new ball) 
• #8: Reserved for bowling AR ->  Kapil (I need strong batting till #8)
• #9-10: 2 Pace bowlers: Bumrah and Shami (since they bowl well as a pair). Other options: Srinath & Zaheer 
• #11: Specialist spinner (to be supported by Mankad) ->: Chandra, somewhat of a mystery spinner (won Ind test series in ENG in relatively unhelpful conditions) 

Edited February 23, 2021 by zen

[Serpico]

On 2/22/2021 at 9:54 PM, zen said:

 

The greatness of Pujara is that even though he avg relatively less recently, he has helped create a platform of his team ... without Pujara's platform, the team could get bundled out for 300 or less in difficult conditions   ... when he gets going, he makes the whole series count such as the legendary series in Aus, the series in Eng (131* and other such knocks) and so on  

 

We can be sure that it would be a great ball or some dumb luck for the other team that would get Pujara out more often than not esp. v strong teams

got out to an ordinary ball today, couldn't read the line right. He is definitely struggling 

[zen]

1 minute ago, Serpico said:

got out to an ordinary ball today, couldn't read the line right. He is definitely struggling 

 

Big deal? 

[Serpico]

6 minutes ago, zen said:

 

Big deal? 

yeah his avg drops to below 30 since WTC started. you don't think a top order batsman averaging in 20s is a big deal? 

Edited February 24, 2021 by Serpico

[zen]

Just now, Serpico said:

yeah his avg drops to below 30 since WTC started. you don't think a top order batsman averaging in 20s isn't a big deal? 

 

We have already identified that he isn't in the best of form (unless he has to be in a purple patch all the time) but still contributing as seen in the last series in Aus (w/o him Ind would not have won its 2nd series in a row - heroics in Sydney, most 50+ scores in the series, and so on). Ind still has a chance to get into WTC final because of likes of Pujara ... Let others do well too esp. in Ind 

[maniac]

Just now, zen said:

 

We have already identified that he isn't in the best of form (unless he has to be in a purple patch all the time) but still contributing as seen in the last series in Aus (w/o him Ind would not have won its 2nd series in a row - heroics in Sydney, most 50+ scores in the series, and so on). Ind still has a chance to get into WTC final because of likes of Pujara ... Let others do well too esp. in Ind 

but you said a guy who saved that game in the end and took 13 wickets in the same series and was one of the highest wickets takers for India and then took 20 wickets already in the next 3 tests should raise his game

so what is the benchmark for Pujara?

 

[Serpico]

3 minutes ago, zen said:

 

We have already identified that he isn't in the best of form (unless he has to be in a purple patch all the time) but still contributing as seen in the last series in Aus (w/o him Ind would not have won its 2nd series in a row - heroics in Sydney, most 50+ scores in the series, and so on). Ind still has a chance to get into WTC final because of likes of Pujara ... Let others do well too esp. in Ind 

I don't know man, he isn't in great form and he is still planning to participate in ipl even though there is a good chance that he will be warming the bench for most of the tourney. I now wish he played full summer in counties to prepare for the wtc final and the england series. He can play ipl next year when two additional teams are introduced and there is more demand for players

[Serpico]

I initially loved the idea of Pujara in ipl as its a good chance for him to show a different side of his game, but if he is going to struggle like this he better get as much red ball practice as he can before the final

[zen]

 

5 minutes ago, Serpico said:

I don't know man, he isn't in great form and he is still planning to participate in ipl even though there is a good chance that he will be warming the bench for most of the tourney. I now wish he played full summer in counties to prepare for the wtc final and the england series. He can play ipl next year when two additional teams are introduced and there is more demand for players

 

We can't control those things as everyone is in IPL anyways (likes of Rahane could be warming the benches. We do not know what Vihari could be doing, and so on ) but good to see the hopes on Pujara for Ind to do well overseas ... He tends to raise his game when its counts so hope that it continues

[zen]

55 minutes ago, maniac said:

but you said a guy who saved that game in the end and took 13 wickets in the same series and was one of the highest wickets takers for India and then took 20 wickets already in the next 3 tests should raise his game

 

 

We are talking about consistency in most conditions over a period of time ... say at least 3-4 brilliant series in a row or a specified cluster

 

 

 

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so what is the benchmark for Pujara?

 

Same. Prove yourself in most conditions over a of period, which as discussed Pujara did in Eng, 2 back to back series in Aus, in NZ in tough conditions batting in the difficult top order (got out to good balls)

 

Pujara can serve as an inspiration on how to turn things around (was relatively ordinary as a most conditions player early on in his career) 

Edited February 24, 2021 by zen

[The Realist]

1 hour ago, maniac said:

but you said a guy who saved that game in the end and took 13 wickets in the same series and was one of the highest wickets takers for India and then took 20 wickets already in the next 3 tests should raise his game

so what is the benchmark for Pujara?

 

Making tea and carrying drinks for the CSK retirement home. 

[Vk1]

Josh Hazlewood withdraws from IPL to concentrate on Ashes.. Che Pu despite being pretty avg in recent years happy to play for CSK even when WTC & Eng tour are more important & likely avenues for him to succeed

[nevada]

5 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

Josh Hazlewood withdraws from IPL to concentrate on Ashes.. Che Pu despite being pretty avg in recent years happy to play for CSK even when WTC & Eng tour are more important & likely avenues for him to succeed

I feel he will actually benefit from playing in IPL. He has nothing to lose and can gain some confidence to bat more freely and up his scoring rate.

[Lone Wolf]

It's not like he was doing anything earth shattering in County.  Playing in IPl with high intensity may help him to find new ways to score runs..  Spinners choke him easily these days.  Hopefully someone forces him to learn sweep & few other shots.  That will come handy. 

[Adamant]

Pujara is the reason why we won two series in Aus. An Indian ATG for sure. 

[ShoonyaSifar]

2 hours ago, Vk1 said:

Josh Hazlewood withdraws from IPL to concentrate on Ashes.. Che Pu despite being pretty avg in recent years happy to play for CSK even when WTC & Eng tour are more important & likely avenues for him to succeed

He has shown enough respect for test cricket. Doesn't have to prove it to anyone.

 

Plus due to covid, not sure if being in a bubble away from home in a foreign country for additional 2 months would help much. A county stint would have meant being in England from now till end of September. Not feasible at all.

[Clarke]

2 hours ago, nevada said:

I feel he will actually benefit from playing in IPL. He has nothing to lose and can gain some confidence to bat more freely and up his scoring rate.

 

This bat freely isn't so simple without the abilities. What if he struggles with run a ball innings like Rahane did for RR, how does that help gain confidence ?

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

It's not like he was doing anything earth shattering in County.  Playing in IPl with high intensity may help him to find new ways to score runs..  Spinners choke him easily these days.  Hopefully someone forces him to learn sweep & few other shots.  That will come handy. 

 

Next is england tour 

 

• Where he ll play against red duke ball- County red duke vs IPL white ball 
• He ll play in england- county will be in england vs IPL in india 
• Time in middle - In county he will surely be in XI vs in IPL i doubt