After watching this: Do you think quality of cricket has gone up or down since 70’s-80’s?

[Global.Baba]

https://youtu.be/GHCuFbnW86U

Edited March 24, 2021 by Global.Baba

[Global.Baba]

Cricket.au will not let me embed that video 

[Global.Baba]

The wicket keeping by Dujon  and the bowling looks lethal 

[First class]

That was the golden era of cricket. 

[rkt.india]

Batsmen are batting like they are facing grenades.

[bowl_out]

Bowling looks real quality. Batting looks pathetic

[express bowling]

Don't forget that this match was played in Perth ... one of the quickest and bounciest pitches where the ball swung too and there was some seam movement as well.

 

Moreover, these are the highlights of a very good performance and some of the more lethal deliveries are shown.

 

Ball by ball bowling on normal paced pitches did not look like this in that era.

Edited March 24, 2021 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Bumrah and Shami bowling in Australia in 2018-19

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=svJkadBf8Z4

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v6S_4EgW3es

 

 

[Suhaan]

Nostalgia makes you overrate past

[Jay]

Present is way way ahead. 

[afan]

With the onset of Power Plays, the game has definitely evolved when in comparison with the plain vanilla 50 overs thing of the past.

The batsman has it much easier, and the bowlers needs to keep innovating on their skillsets. Having more scoring opportunities means also the possibility of a wicket and that works both ways isnt it.

 

The boring quiet overs between the 20th to 40th has been done away with, and that has augmented the pace and rate of scoring

 

I would definitely want to see atleast one or spiced up decks in a bilaterals, just to see if the batsman can adjust or if the captains can tweak their strategies

 

My personal take is that we can reduce 20 overs from the game..100 to 80 will make it more interesting without altering the format too much

[coffee_rules]

I would paraphrase it as “ Quality of contest” instead of cricket. The abilities have improved, bowlers bowl faster and are more athletic. Batsman (or gladiators) can bat more fearlessly and hence there is less contest between bat and ball.

[Jimmy Cliff]

4 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Nostalgia makes you overrate past

 

That's true but recency bias makes you overrate the present as well . IMO the quality of cricket has improved in certain aspects (power hitting, ground fielding, death over bowling) and regressed in others (batting against moving ball/spin, slip catching).

[MechEng]

The game changed after Lillee showered bouncers on West Indies in 1975, after which West Indies changed cricket forever with very attacking batting and hostile fast bowling. Otherwise till 60s, the game was about gentlemanly conduct.

[MechEng]

6 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Batsmen are batting like they are facing grenades.

 

6 hours ago, express bowling said:

Don't forget that this match was played in Perth ... one of the quickest and bounciest pitches where the ball swung too and there was some seam movement as well.

 

Moreover, these are the highlights of a very good performance and some of the more lethal deliveries are shown.

 

Ball by ball bowling on normal paced pitches did not look like this in that era.

 

Self confidence counts too. Back then batsmen had traditional mindset and never played unnecessary shots.

 

Pant would have reverse swept Holding for a six or four back then, not because Holding bowled bad but because T20 gave batsmen plenty of confidence.

[MechEng]

That spell from Holding looks on par with Cummins against us recently.

[putrevus]

Facing that four pronged fast bowling attack will be nightmare for any team. It does not matter which era you are talking about.That is why they still are the best team in history of the the game.

[Global.Baba]

1 hour ago, sarchasm said:

I see holding bowl and it makes me think. He was probably as good as Jofra.

 

Now do a similar montage of Madan lal and binny bowl in the 80s and compare it with Bumrah and Shami and Umesh. That should lay bare the stupidity of this OP.

that’s a dumb point. You are comparing mediocre cricketers to good ones, that has nothing to do with changes or evolution of cricket. It is due to Indian cricket system getting better and producing better talent.

 

By the same account you can run a montage of Holding or Viv Richards vs the current players from the WI test team. What will that prove then?

 

 

Edited March 24, 2021 by Global.Baba

[Global.Baba]

People are missing the point, May be Bumrah or Shami or anyone else might have bowled a better spell or there might have been 50 better spells since this game. That’s not the point.

 

People keep saying cricket has changed or gotten better, I don’t see see such a drastic change. Sure fitness,bats,technology have all evolved but if you look at the bowling,fielding,keeping and even the fitness/agility of the WI team here,it doesn’t look inferior to any other team of the modern era.

[putrevus]

10 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

People are missing the point, May be Bumrah or Shami or anyone else might have bowled a better spell or there might have been 50 better spells since this game. That’s not the point.

 

People keep saying cricket has changed or gotten better, I don’t see see such a drastic change. Sure fitness,bats,technology have all evolved but if you look at the bowling,fielding,keeping and even the fitness/agility of the WI team here,it doesn’t look inferior to any other team of the modern era.

That WI team as is would fit into any format in modern day cricket. They don't have to change a lick  in players to be the greatest team of this era too.