Should senior players be considered for the 2023 ODI WC?

[zen]

2023 ODI WC is in Oct-Nov in India. Should senior players like Rohit, KL, Kohli, Bhuvi, & Ashwin  be considered for that world cup (after spoiling the last 2 T20 WCs for India)?  

 

Or should India focus on developing a relatively new LOI team. If the team does well, great; if not, it would be better placed to do well in the 2024 T20 WC. 

 

Can India afford to rebuild late where it could potentially sacrifice both 2023 & 2024 world cups? Discuss. 

[sandeep]

Ashwin can be critical, so can anyone of Rohit/KL/Kohli.  Problem is that we can't accommodate all 3 in the batting lineup.  India should have been auditioning alternatives already - we are very very late in the game.

[nevada]

No, they are all past it and will be even more declined one year later. Gill, Samson, Iyer, Shaw are some of the names to be considered for the batting line-up. Patidar seems quite promising as well and hopefully gets opportunities to prove himself. 

[Vk1]

Senior pros are likely to do well in ODIs in league stage.. once KOs come they will be found wanting unless we get to play on 350+ wickets.. having said that we have not played juniors consistently but better to play mix of youngsters and seniors

[Chakdephatte]

When you are given four years for preparation, you start making changes from 1st day itself. Doing it in last year isn't a good idea. May work with exception players like Gill, but not others.

Edited November 17, 2022 by Chakdephatte

[vayuu1]

4 hours ago, Vk1 said:

Senior pros are likely to do well in ODIs in league stage.. once KOs come they will be found wanting unless we get to play on 350+ wickets.. having said that we have not played juniors consistently but better to play mix of youngsters and seniors

October November is a time when its winter time in india,and outfield will have lots of dew during evening,which plus if its day game ball will swing, especially in north 

[cricketfan28]

 All young team might do well but will succumb to pressure and will be made scapegoat, better to leave it to seniors as not much time left to experiment with young guns.

I still believe we can win the cup with seniors they are made for 50-50 not t20.

[Suhaan]

7 hours ago, zen said:

2023 ODI WC is in Oct-Nov in India. Should senior players like Rohit, KL, Kohli, Bhuvi, & Ashwin  be considered for that world cup (after spoiling the last 2 T20 WCs for India)?  

 

Or should India focus on developing a relatively new LOI team. If the team does well, great; if not, it would be better placed to do well in the 2024 T20 WC. 

 

Can India afford to rebuild late where it could potentially sacrifice both 2023 & 2024 world cups? Discuss. 

Bhuvi i thought was kept ut of Odi set up
I know fraud will sneak through,Rohit will not be able to scrore fluently,Dhawan not sure about either
Kohli is also dicey
So in all ,recipe for disaster once again
They had all the time in the while,they just took the bait of "ODI superleague" too seriously from ICC

 

 

 

 

[RameshPowar]

This should be the team for 2023 WC. Good blend of youth and experience. 

 

Shikhar Dhawan (C)

Cheteshwar Pujara

Manish Pandey 

Baba Indrajith

Ambati Rayudu

Dinesh Karthik (WK)

Vijay Shankar

Baba Aprajith

Bhuvneshwar Kumar

Jaydev Unadkat

Chetan Sakariya

Edited November 18, 2022 by RameshPowar

[Majestic]

Dhawan, Ashwin and Bhuvi shouldn't be in the team.

 

Rest should either perform or else get dropped. KL Rahul doesn't give us anything new which we won't get from Suryakumar, Shreyas or Samson. You can easily play Pandya at 5 and have Suryakumar at 6.

[Bigg Brother]

It should have started after SF debacle in 2019..Too late now. 

[prudent_kreeda]

12 hours ago, zen said:

2023 ODI WC is in Oct-Nov in India. Should senior players like Rohit, KL, Kohli, Bhuvi, & Ashwin  be considered for that world cup (after spoiling the last 2 T20 WCs for India)?  

 

Or should India focus on developing a relatively new LOI team. If the team does well, great; if not, it would be better placed to do well in the 2024 T20 WC. 

 

Can India afford to rebuild late where it could potentially sacrifice both 2023 & 2024 world cups? Discuss. 

It has to be mix of a max  2 senior batsmen & 2 bowlers at the most in the X1. . Rest should be Young players who are performing. 

My ideal X1 will have VK & KL in MO and Bhumra and Chahal in some matches , rest  all youngsters. 

In reality selectors will pick see mostly 4 senior batsmen (VK, RS, KL & Dhawan) in 15 man squad which is one too many and may be 3 pacers ( Bhumra, Chahal & May be Shami) 

 

 

[Frustrated]

47 minutes ago, RameshPowar said:

This should be the team for 2023 WC. Good blend of youth and experience. 

 

Shikhar Dhawan (C)

Cheteshwar Pujara

Manish Pandey 

Baba Indrajith

Ambati Rayudu

Dinesh Karthik (WK)

Vijay Shankar

Baba Aprajith

Bhuvneshwar Kumar

Jaydev Unadkat

Chetan Sakariya

Pujara,  Baba Indrajit, Baba Aprajith

[express bowling]

1. Gill / ?

2. Pant / Shaw 

3. Kohli / Shreyas 

4. SKY / Shreyas 

5. Rahul  / Kishan 

6. Hardik / Shardul ( would bat at 8 ) 

7. Tewatia / ?

8. Jadeja / Shahbaz 

9. Kuldeep / Bishnoi 

10. Bumrah / Sen / Siraj 

11. Prasidh / Siraj 

 

 

... Rahul, if played, can't bat above 4

... One dashing opener a must 

... This team has 3 pace snd 3 spin options.

... Really good batting till 8

Edited November 18, 2022 by express bowling

[rkt.india]

Our depleted team defeated South Africa almost frontline squad at home. I would like the same team with some tweaks to continue in ODIs.

[SRT100]

55 minutes ago, Bigg Brother said:

It should have started after SF debacle in 2019..Too late now. 

India are having so many debacles, they just all roll into one big mess.

 

Its a shame as India has the capacity to win these tournaments.

Respect is earned in WC tournaments, not in insignificant meaningless IPL.

[rkt.india]

This is the squad. Drop Dhawan, Avesh, mukesh, thakur.

[Sonix768]

Its the most prestigious Cricket tournament and it's happening in India so, whether we like it or not, our selectors and TM would never take courageous actions and always would select safer and more predictable options only. So brace yourself for the following lineup.

 

Rohit

Dhawan

Kohli

Rahul

Pant

Pandya

Jadeja

Shami

Bumrah

<Rotational spot for bowlers: Siraj/Prasidh/Bhuvi/Ashwin/Arshdeep/Kuldeep/Bishnoi/Chahar/Thakur or any flavor of the season younger bowler>

Chahal

Edited November 18, 2022 by Sonix768

[Sooda]

In a word - No

 

It is not good for us that ODIs are effectively an extension of T20 cricket. Indeed it is not good for the sport overall. ODIs are increasingly redundant in the T20 era. Even watching batsmen bash 350 scores on pattas is just... boring... no skill involved.

 

Given that, we cannot accommodate our current top three/four. Or , we only can if KL Rahul really commits to being the attacking force we know he can be and not the accumulator he is currently being. It is even hard to see how both Virat and Rohit can be accommodated- flip side is that they are all time ODI greats and I think can still contribute especially in home ODIs, just need that "intent".

Need depth and power in the lineup , there isnt enough of that now. Bowlers who can bat especially, as I see the likes of Sundar and Shabaz and as good as they are and potentially are, they are not lower order LOI bats.

 

Dhawan should be dropped, he is an ODI legend for us, but his time has passed.

I think a middle order of Iyer and SKY will be a good one to take down spinners at home in the middle overs.

 

A good ODI 11/ squad for me to try out vs NZ and Bang would be :

Gill, Pant, Gaekwad, S Iyer , SKY, Hardik (c) , Sundar, D Chahar, Sen, Arshdeep, Bishnoi     

Patidar/Shaw, Samson, Hooda, Shabaz, R Chahar, Siraj
 

 

Edited November 18, 2022 by Sooda

[LordPrabhzy]

Rohit, Dhawan and Kohli WILL play- its their last home 50 WC and Indians are obsessed with personal desires rather than what's best for the team so expect a push from BCCI for them to be included- fans will tune in more to see a potential WC winning and career finishing knocks by any of the three oldies