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Prithvi Shaw thinks he’s a star, should learn from Shubman Gill and must work on his technique and fitness: Karsan Ghavri


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https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/ipl/prithvi-shaw-thinks-hes-a-star-should-learn-from-shubman-gill-and-must-work-on-his-technique-and-fitness-karsan-ghavri-8632117/

If Shubman Gill’s career graph has gone in an upward direction, his U-19 teammate Prithvi Shaw has plunged to rock bottom. Shaw played the first six games of the season for the Delhi Capitals, scoring 12, 7, 0, 15, 0 and 13, before he was dropped. He returned for the last two games, and scored a fifty but never found that tempo in his batting.

Shaw finished the IPL with 106 runs in eight matches.Shubman Gill smashed three centuries in his last four innings and has the Orange Cap now, for a total of 851 runs so far, scored at an average of 60.78 and strike rate of 156.43.

Former India pacer Karsan Ghavri says the fortunes are contrasting as Gill has worked “tirelessly on his batting,” while Shaw “hasn’t”.

“They were in the same team that won the U-19 World Cup in 2018, right? Today where is Prithvi Shaw and where is Shubman Gill? They are in two different categories,” Ghavri told The Indian Express.

 

“Shaw thinks he is a star and nobody can touch him. But he needs to understand that at the international level, irrespective of whether you are playing T20, 50 over or the Test match or even the Ranji Trophy, it takes only one delivery to get you out.

“You require discipline and a good temperament. You need to constantly work on yourself. You are required to occupy the crease, and if you do that, you are bound to get more runs,” Ghavri said.

Ghavri feels Shaw should learn from Gill and must work on his technique and fitness.

“They are of the same age. Nothing has been lost yet. Gill has worked on his flaws, while Shaw hasn’t. He still can. He needs to work hard; otherwise, there is no point having so much potential,” he says.

 

Ghavri is not the only one, who has slammed Shaw for his batting and work ethics. Former New Zealand pacer Simon Doull that the Mumbai batter needs to work on his technique and fitness.

“I pointed out the glitch in his batting in 2018 and till now, I can see the same. No change. You can’t continue down the same road. If things aren’t working, you have to change them up, and he has to understand where he is at in his game. It’s just not good enough. I don’t think he is fit. I don’t think he has really adjusted his game as such and he has paid the price,” Doull had said on Cricbuzz after Shaw’s lean phase in the early part of the tournament.

At the start of the season, Delhi Capitals head coach Ricky Ponting had high hopes for Prithvi Shaw and even said that this will be opener’s biggest season in the IPL. Ponting admitted that Shaw failed to live up to his potential.

“I actually came out and publicly said on record that he might be our standout player throughout the tournament, but that hasn’t worked out,” he said after Shaw was dropped following a string of poor scores.“It was six games this season, I think six or seven games in the back end of the last season. I think it is 13 games (12) since Prithvi has made a fifty while opening the batting,” Ponting had said. “We needed to find that spark at the top of the order, and Prithvi has failed to give us that start.”

 

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25 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Well TM never gave Shaw opportunities when he was doing well, just to protect the outdated trio of Kela/Rohit/Kohli. 

 

When you deny/demoralise youngsters to protect your favorites this is what happens.... unfortunately for them they couldn't get rid of Pant despite their best efforts. Shaw, Sundar (tests), Kuldeep, Tyagi etc. are the unlucky ones. Especially tough on the young batsmen, because bikau BCCI and corrupt TM will do everything in their power to protect the superstar batsmen.

 

Won't be surprised if Jaiswal, Rinku, Tilak etc. meet the same fate as Shaw. Remember Shaw was striking at 180-200 a couple of seasons back when Kela said SR is overrated in T20 cricket. Gill has his purple patch now but Indian white ball team needs a player like Shaw from couple of years back....a modern day Sehwag equivalent.

Sabse pehle toh Kohli Rohit ko white ball team se bhagana hoga

Those two are enough to influence decisions,lesser they are on camera lesser the endorsements eventually lesser the need to milk their bhaaand value

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16 hours ago, Gollum said:

Well TM never gave Shaw opportunities when he was doing well, just to protect the outdated trio of Kela/Rohit/Kohli. 

 

When you deny/demoralise youngsters to protect your favorites this is what happens.... unfortunately for them they couldn't get rid of Pant despite their best efforts. Shaw, Sundar (tests), Kuldeep, Tyagi etc. are the unlucky ones. Especially tough on the young batsmen, because bikau BCCI and corrupt TM will do everything in their power to protect the superstar batsmen.

 

Won't be surprised if Jaiswal, Rinku, Tilak etc. meet the same fate as Shaw. Remember Shaw was striking at 180-200 a couple of seasons back when Kela said SR is overrated in T20 cricket. Gill has his purple patch now but Indian white ball team needs a player like Shaw from couple of years back....a modern day Sehwag equivalent.

Enough of excuses for Shaw. He was handed over debut in Australia and he got injured. He was never fit always had problems with ball coming in. Shaw was slotted for opening position we had always had dearth of talent with opening. Rohit hardly played any test matches. We shouldn’t be like our neighbors in finding excuses for hacks like Shaw

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There are not probably 7-8 under 25 batsmen ahead of Shaw. And even more will emerge every year. Shaw just isn't top level. Can't play 140+ pace. Can't play balls that come in. Unfit. Bad attitude. Drifting out of even the IPL.  Not sure how is ever in the the discussion for the national team.

 

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Shaw unfortunately has a lot of catchup to do now.

 

Gill, Jaiswal and Ruturaj are ahead of him at the top...even in MO the likes of Tilak, Rinku and Jitesh had ensured no chance in MO. Only respite which Shaw had last year was his hitting ability, but all 3 of Gill, Jaiswal and Ruturaj have explored that dimension as well with consistent success.

 

Shaw is now on fringes competing with the Tier 2 batters like Prabhsimran, Jagadeesan, Abhishek Sharma, Nitish Rana....even there he is behind them because they all offer additional skill....Nitish Rana specifically impressed me this year the way he improved his short ball problem.

 

I will not count Shaw out for now. But he has to now accept the fact that there is high possibility he will eventually turn into another "could have been".

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Permanently discarded after that Adelaide test where everyone else also failed, especially in that 36 all out session. The previous test Shaw played, he top scored on day 1 greentop in NZ with run a ball 55 against Boult, Southee, Jamieson, Wagner. Different rules for different players.

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9 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Shaw unfortunately has a lot of catchup to do now.

 

Gill, Jaiswal and Ruturaj are ahead of him at the top...even in MO the likes of Tilak, Rinku and Jitesh had ensured no chance in MO. Only respite which Shaw had last year was his hitting ability, but all 3 of Gill, Jaiswal and Ruturaj have explored that dimension as well with consistent success.

 

Shaw is now on fringes competing with the Tier 2 batters like Prabhsimran, Jagadeesan, Abhishek Sharma, Nitish Rana....even there he is behind them because they all offer additional skill....Nitish Rana specifically impressed me this year the way he improved his short ball problem.

 

I will not count Shaw out for now. But he has to now accept the fact that there is high possibility he will eventually turn into another "could have been".

 

Patidar is also there.

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On 5/28/2023 at 3:55 AM, Gollum said:

Well TM never gave Shaw opportunities when he was doing well, just to protect the outdated trio of Kela/Rohit/Kohli. 

 

When you deny/demoralise youngsters to protect your favorites this is what happens.... unfortunately for them they couldn't get rid of Pant despite their best efforts. Shaw, Sundar (tests), Kuldeep, Tyagi etc. are the unlucky ones. Especially tough on the young batsmen, because bikau BCCI and corrupt TM will do everything in their power to protect the superstar batsmen.

 

Won't be surprised if Jaiswal, Rinku, Tilak etc. meet the same fate as Shaw. Remember Shaw was striking at 180-200 a couple of seasons back when Kela said SR is overrated in T20 cricket. Gill has his purple patch now but Indian white ball team needs a player like Shaw from couple of years back....a modern day Sehwag equivalent.

I don't think anyone with the fitness of Shaw should be considered on the national team. That lack of discipline is disturbing. 

 

This should apply to Rohit, Pant, Thakur and others too. When you don't focus on fitness, you're not the best version of yourself and that shouldn't be acceptable anymore. Take it seriously and get in the gym. 

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3 hours ago, Lord said:

Shaw has been followed as a prodigy since he was 12. Its human if he thinks he's something special.

 

And hasn't been backed like others. As @Gollum said that leads to resentment and disillusion.

 

IPL has become defacto standard for all selection. Gone are the days where selection committee look at Irani Trophy performances which by the way considered to be gold standard.  Jaiswal made Twin centuries in Irani Trophy. Hardly got any attention. He had to have a breakout season in the IPL to get noticed. Ponting fully backed him. He did not deliver. It forced him to drop Shaw.  Not like he sizzles in domestic. Made 595 runs in 10 innings. 379 from 1 innings 216 from 9 innings with just 1 fifty. Mayank made 990 runs in 9 matches. Last season he made 355 runs in 10 innings averaging 35.50. So many guys are outperforming him even in domestic. I think it is a case of him not fixing his issue. Looking at his fitness one can see he is not putting enough effort. All those who are thriving this seaso of IPL are fit and athletic.  Gill, Ruturaj, Jaiswal. Pant is an exception. 

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4 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

IPL has become defacto standard for all selection. Gone are the days where selection committee look at Irani Trophy performances which by the way considered to be gold standard.  Jaiswal made Twin centuries in Irani Trophy. Hardly got any attention. He had to have a breakout season in the IPL to get noticed. Ponting fully backed him. He did not deliver. It forced him to drop Shaw.  Not like he sizzles in domestic. Made 595 runs in 10 innings. 379 from 1 innings 216 from 9 innings with just 1 fifty. Mayank made 990 runs in 9 matches. Last season he made 355 runs in 10 innings averaging 35.50. So many guys are outperforming him even in domestic. I think it is a case of him not fixing his issue. Looking at his fitness one can see he is not putting enough effort. All those who are thriving this seaso of IPL are fit and athletic.  Gill, Ruturaj, Jaiswal. Pant is an exception. 

Thats exactly the case of disillusionment

 

Was dropped without much backing when he got chances and trolled. Tough now.

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22 hours ago, Gollum said:

Permanently discarded after that Adelaide test where everyone else also failed, especially in that 36 all out session. The previous test Shaw played, he top scored on day 1 greentop in NZ with run a ball 55 against Boult, Southee, Jamieson, Wagner. Different rules for different players.

He was discarded for Gill who did well. Gill in my opinion should have played from test 1 in middle order. Shaw had a horrible Adelaide test with fielding as well. He seemed totally out of touch against Aussie pacers, there wasn't anyway he was getting 2nd test. 

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8 minutes ago, Bigg Brother said:

He was discarded for Gill who did well. Gill in my opinion should have played from test 1 in middle order. Shaw had a horrible Adelaide test with fielding as well. He seemed totally out of touch against Aussie pacers, there wasn't anyway he was getting 2nd test. 

Gill should have always slotted in at #3 or #4, but how could TM drop Kohli/Pujara, even Rahane?  If TM persists with Gill as opener he won't achieve his full potential. 

 

Won't judge Shaw so harshly based on just one game. Ok to drop him for MCG test but we have played 25 odd tests since that 2020-21 BG tour, why was he permanently discarded? At the same time they kept on backing a dud like Kela who crosses double figures once in 5 innings. 

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