Trichromatic Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Quote An Ashes controversy kicked up on the final day of the second Test after Jonny Bairstow was given out in bizarre circumstances, prompting an exchange of words between the two side's captains and boos ringing out around the normally genteel Lord's. Bairstow, on 10 and shaping as a crucial figure in England’s fourth-innings pursuit of 371, ducked under a harmless bouncer from Cameron Green. Wicketkeeper Alex Carey immediately underarmed the ball at the stumps as the batter inadvertently wandered out of his crease. https://www.cricket.com.au/news/jonny-bairstow-run-out-alex-carey-lords-day-five-ashes-australia-england-cummins-stokes/2023-07-02 Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Sorry, out is out. You got to be more careful until you're sure the ball is dead. As much as I despise the Ozzies, this is the way cricket is played. This sounds like when Srikkanth ran himself out in his debut innings when he stepped out of the crease to blow his nose or something. ravishingravi, Lord, sorak and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, R!TTER said: Really? He did that Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, R!TTER said: Really? He did that Sorry, not actually blow his nose, but more like rub it with his gloves while loudly sucking in the mucous with a contorted expression. It was his way of regaining focus. Lord, Under_Score, khadekhademaaro and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Gollum Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 (edited) Starc, Cummins were very vocal after Ashwin's mankad dismissal in a random IPL game. There were threads opened on the IPL forum where some of our brown coolies threw their weight behind the goras and argued how they have a superior sports culture, hence play fair. Where are those buddhijeevis now? Edited July 2, 2023 by Gollum rollingstoned, nevada and wazza 2 1 Link to comment
Majestic Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 (edited) That's cheap act from Aussies but as Ellyse Perry said long back about Mankad that if you have to do anything against the spirit, do it vs English. So, Aussies doing this to English is completely fine for me as well. Edited July 2, 2023 by Majestic ravishingravi 1 Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gollum said: Starc, Cummins were very vocal after Ashwin's mankad dismissal in a random IPL game. There were threads opened on the IPL forum where some of our brown coolies threw their weight behind the goras and argued how they have a superior sports culture, hence play fair. Where are those buddijeevis now? Maybe they thought about it some and came to see the light (; Link to comment
Gollum Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Spirit of cricket is a nonsense concept applicable only when one of the gora sides is on the receiving end against SC side or WI. In all other cases rules are rules. The earlier Indians shed their inferiority complex the better. cowboysfan, ravishingravi, Frustrated and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, Gollum said: Spirit of cricket is a nonsense concept applicable only when one of the gora sides is on the receiving end against SC side or WI. In all other cases rules are rules. The earlier Indians shed their inferiority complex the better. If the rule is "unfair," then petition the ICC to change it. Gollum and bowl_out 2 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 23 minutes ago, Gollum said: Starc, Cummins were very vocal after Ashwin's mankad dismissal in a random IPL game. There were threads opened on the IPL forum where some of our brown coolies threw their weight behind the goras and argued how they have a superior sports culture, hence play fair. Where are those buddhijeevis now? This dismissal had nothing to do with spirit of cricket because Carey threw the ball immediately after he received it and Baitstaw was still in the crease so ball was in play. But when the ball was midway, Baitstaw left his crease as it hit the stumps. So got out stumped. Link to comment
bowl_out Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 (edited) England are repeat offenders in similar situations and they always cry for spirit of the game to save them.. It works when the opposition is India (Ian Bell incident) or NZ (Paul Collingwood incident). It doesn't work against Australia. Here is the Collingwood incident.. almost a replica of the Bairstow wicket. But Collingwood was allowed to continue to bat despite the third umpire giving him out.. Same thing happened with Ian Bell. He was given out, but England begged Dhoni to withdraw his appeal and he did. Edited July 2, 2023 by bowl_out mishra and Nikola 1 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 54 minutes ago, rkt.india said: This dismissal had nothing to do with spirit of cricket because Carey threw the ball immediately after he received it and Baitstaw was still in the crease so ball was in play. But when the ball was midway, Baitstaw left his crease as it hit the stumps. So got out stumped. No he was not out stumped, he was out run out. It has got everything to do with spirit of the game. Link to comment
nevada Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Gollum said: Spirit of cricket is a nonsense concept applicable only when one of the gora sides is on the receiving end against SC side or WI. In all other cases rules are rules. The earlier Indians shed their inferiority complex the better. And the goras happily claim suspicious catches too. Why can't they signal like gentlemen that they aren't sure if the catch is clean? Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Because they play to win, we play to win hearts Link to comment
Lord Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 23 minutes ago, bowl_out said: England are repeat offenders in similar situations and they always cry for spirit of the game to save them.. It works when the opposition is India (Ian Bell incident) or NZ (Paul Collingwood incident). It doesn't work against Australia. Here is the Collingwood incident.. almost a replica of the Bairstow wicket. But Collingwood was allowed to continue to bat despite the third umpire giving him out.. Same thing happened with Ian Bell. He was given out, but England begged Dhoni to withdraw his appeal and he did. They also didn't call back Elliot after he banged into the bowler midway. Serves them right bowl_out, Nikola and Under_Score 3 Link to comment
bowl_out Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Gollum said: Starc, Cummins were very vocal after Ashwin's mankad dismissal in a random IPL game. There were threads opened on the IPL forum where some of our brown coolies threw their weight behind the goras and argued how they have a superior sports culture, hence play fair. Where are those buddhijeevis now? They would argue that mankad is a dismissal even before the ball is delivered whereas this is a dismissal after the ball is played by the batter. Hence they would treat this legit. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 The ball is in play as soon as the bowler takes his runup, well technically from the point when he enters his bowling action so there's that. Link to comment
putrevus Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Just now, Lord said: They also didn't call back Elliot after he banged into the bowler midway. Serves them right Both England and Australia talk about spirit of the game only when they are at receiving end. When they are the offenders they will quote rule book. Lord 1 Link to comment
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