Karun Nair should have batted ahead of Pant, Pant should be #6 in long term

[Trichromatic]

Pant is probably best batsman of the side. Giving him opportunity at #5 means giving him opportunity to score more which he is capable of. He looks like someone who can end with avg of 46-47 if regularly gets more opportunities.

With fragile top order, it was better for him to be at 5 to get more runs. But now that oldies are gone, this approach should be revisited.

 

Making him bat at #6 will reduce his runs, but might increase impact of his runs and will allow team (along with others) to maximise total tally.

# 6 is decisive spot in SENA.

1. Old ball

2. Tired bowlers

3. Need a batsman who can handle 2nd new ball.

4. Need someone who can score quickly and farm strike with tail if needed

5. Should be technically sound, not someone who can avg high, but someone who can play impact innings.

 

This team has issue with collapses where ageing Jadeja can't score valuable runs now on regular basis and there is no other batsman who can play this role better.

 

Role at #5 where you need to build inning, play for sessions etc can be assigned to specialist batsmen.

 

[Trichromatic]

It's double edged sword, if others don't step up in top 5, then such move will feel like you're wasting Pant too low. But if others step up then it can do wonders.

[putrevus]

2 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Pant is probably best batsman of the side. Giving him opportunity at #5 means giving him opportunity to score more which he is capable of. He looks like someone who can end with avg of 46-47 if regularly gets more opportunities.

With fragile top order, it was better for him to be at 5 to get more runs. But now that oldies are gone, this approach should be revisited.

 

Making him bat at #6 will reduce his runs, but might increase impact of his runs and will allow team (along with others) to maximise total tally.

# 6 is decisive spot in SENA.

1. Old ball

2. Tired bowlers

3. Need a batsman who can handle 2nd new ball.

4. Need someone who can score quickly and farm strike with tail if needed

5. Should be technically sound, not someone who can avg high, but someone who can play impact innings.

 

This team has issue with collapses where ageing Jadeja can't score valuable runs now on regular basis and there is no other batsman who can play this role better.

 

Role at #5 where you need to build inning, play for sessions etc can be assigned to specialist batsmen.

 

I thought about it too.But Pant fits well at 5 as he splits RHB and he is better batsman than Nair.

[crictime]

2 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

Pant is probably best batsman of the side. Giving him opportunity at #5 means giving him opportunity to score more which he is capable of. He looks like someone who can end with avg of 46-47 if regularly gets more opportunities.

With fragile top order, it was better for him to be at 5 to get more runs. But now that oldies are gone, this approach should be revisited.

 

Making him bat at #6 will reduce his runs, but might increase impact of his runs and will allow team (along with others) to maximise total tally.

# 6 is decisive spot in SENA.

1. Old ball

2. Tired bowlers

3. Need a batsman who can handle 2nd new ball.

4. Need someone who can score quickly and farm strike with tail if needed

5. Should be technically sound, not someone who can avg high, but someone who can play impact innings.

 

This team has issue with collapses where ageing Jadeja can't score valuable runs now on regular basis and there is no other batsman who can play this role better.

 

Role at #5 where you need to build inning, play for sessions etc can be assigned to specialist batsmen.

 

Yashasvi Jaiswal is the best batsman. Has the most runs per innings and batting as opener as well since debut. Rishabh Pant is second best.

[Majestic]

Karun Nair should first do something to merit a place in team let alone batting above Pant.

[Lord]

Nair should be batting at 12

[Lone Wolf]

Nair should be left alone on North Sentinel Island among Sentinels...  

Along with his Gray Nicholls bat.

 

Teach them Gilli danda

[urbestfriend]

Nair should be batting at #3 or #4, If Sai Sudarshan is preferred for #3, then Jurel should be at #6. it is common sense. 

[dilliboy]

Pant is your best test batsmen in overseas..batting him below 5 is sacrilege.

[cricspirit]

Karun Nair should not be in playing 11. NKR should have taken that spot.

[vvvslaxman]

Karun Nair had probably th easiest conditions to bat on in both innings. May be they can try him at 3 and move Sai to 6. Sai can be aggressive late down the order.

[Ultimate_Game]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

Karun Nair had probably th easiest conditions to bat on in both innings. May be they can try him at 3 and move Sai to 6. Sai can be aggressive late down the order.

 

Nope. Nair's time is done. He's a strokeless wonder and I've no idea how he can score at intl level. He can't put away half volleys, bats in a timid fashion and his best scoring shots are reverse sweep and edging the ball to the boundary. He's Hanuma Vihari 2.0. Time to give Sarfaraz and Jurel a run along with Nitish Reddy if he can bowl 10-12 overs a day.

[vvvslaxman]

13 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Nope. Nair's time is done. He's a strokeless wonder and I've no idea how he can score at intl level. He can't put away half volleys, bats in a timid fashion and his best scoring shots are reverse sweep and edging the ball to the boundary. He's Hanuma Vihari 2.0. Time to give Sarfaraz and Jurel a run along with Nitish Reddy if he can bowl 10-12 overs a day.

 

Jurel looks promising with his trigger movements.  Bit more all condition approach. He just has to score big

[Frustrated]

Why should a tailender bat ahead of Pant? 

[Ultimate_Game]

4 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Jurel looks promising with his trigger movements.  Bit more all condition approach. He just has to score big

 

He will if he gets a chance. He was our best batter after Jaiswal in the Eng series and was dropped to make way for the "King" in teh NZ series which we lost. In Aus he barely got a game. Both Sarfaraz and Jurel haven't been given chances which they deserve.

[Trichromatic]

5 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Nope. Nair's time is done. He's a strokeless wonder and I've no idea how he can score at intl level. He can't put away half volleys, bats in a timid fashion and his best scoring shots are reverse sweep and edging the ball to the boundary. He's Hanuma Vihari 2.0. Time to give Sarfaraz and Jurel a run along with Nitish Reddy if he can bowl 10-12 overs a day.

 

This thread is less about Karun Nair and more about Pant batting #6.

[daryl1985]

With Jurel as an option, Pant playing as a pure batter should be a consideration.  

 

Pant is a top 2 test bat along with Jaiswal, need to make the most of his quality.

Edited June 24 by daryl1985

[Adamant]

6 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Nope. Nair's time is done. He's a strokeless wonder and I've no idea how he can score at intl level. He can't put away half volleys, bats in a timid fashion and his best scoring shots are reverse sweep and edging the ball to the boundary. He's Hanuma Vihari 2.0. Time to give Sarfaraz and Jurel a run along with Nitish Reddy if he can bowl 10-12 overs a day.

The GOAT captain realised this way earlier and discarded Nair.

[New guy]

12 hours ago, crictime said:

Yashasvi Jaiswal is the best batsman. Has the most runs per innings and batting as opener as well since debut. Rishabh Pant is second best.

Except Pant has been doing this for 5+ years and on more difficult pitches. So he has been far more consistent 

 

He has been our best bat by abling way, jaiswal still needs to prove himself more. 

 

[nitinbwj]

Nair should bat in nets and against fisaddi CDZ teams. Stay away from internationals