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Ultimate_Game Grand Master

Ultimate_Game

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3 hours ago, Bigg Brother said:

I hope it doesn't turn out like 2016 ODI series where both stat padded on highways and India still lost 1-4 against their B attack.

 

That's the biggest fear. Somehow they manage to eke out a few runs and we carry them for a few more series and then the selectors say it's "too late" to make changes for the 2027 ODI WC and we're stuck with the oldies. And in the WC every team has their full strength squad so no more B grade bowlers to feast on and they struggle leaving India high and dry despite being one of the favorites :((

 

Really hope selectors had a detailed discussion with them and told them that this is their farewell. You gotta give time to youngsters to settle in and also to the new captain to build his team. With Jaiswal, Sai, Rinku Tilak, and to a lesser extent Abhishek in the mix we've a problem of plenty. We'll need time and a number of matches for the new batters to nail down their spots. Already we've limited amount of ODIs so how'll we finalize our WC squad if the oldies don't leave now :dontknow:

 

And this is where our selection committee, especially Agarkar has failed us and Indian cricket. He should be the one paving the way for youngsters and making sure we've a settled team for 2027 WC. But he's way too weak and shies away from making hard decisions.

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Stan AF Grand Master

Stan AF

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6 hours ago, Bigg Brother said:

I hope it doesn't turn out like 2016 ODI series where both stat padded on highways and India still lost 1-4 against their B attack.

 

Bowling was horsseeesshhitt at that time. No point blaming these two.

 

I remember bumrah then made his debut in the T20Is that followed.

Sooda Mentor

Sooda

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The truth is they both are good enough for now in ODIs, Virat especially but Rohit too to a lesser extent. He will give us those explosive starts. It's just that we need to build for 2027. They - certainly Rohit - will not be good enough then 

tapandrun Grand Master

tapandrun

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1 hour ago, Sooda said:

The truth is they both are good enough for now in ODIs, Virat especially but Rohit too to a lesser extent. He will give us those explosive starts. It's just that we need to build for 2027. They - certainly Rohit - will not be good enough then 

 

Right now both Kolhi and Rohit have Odi averages of 50+ and sr of 90+ in last 2-3 years. So on Merritt they  gets into the team. May be they have some cricket left in them.

 

The issues is Ind is taking 2 batters who play in top who are 35+ and nearing 40if they lose form or fitness Ind will have hard time finding the replacements.

In case rohit fails Ind will go to Jaiswal and Kolhi fails it will have to bring Iyer 1 spot up, though Iyer has improved his game vs short balls but will a team risk him at no. 3, if yes then still they will have no one with exp or quality to play #4 meaning KL will move 1 place up and Ind will add some1 at #5.

 

Which is a bad scenario, having KL #4 not sure when and where he loses it.

New guy Grand Master

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2 hours ago, tapandrun said:

 

Right now both Kolhi and Rohit have Odi averages of 50+ and sr of 90+ in last 2-3 years. So on Merritt they  gets into the team. May be they have some cricket left in them.

 

The issues is Ind is taking 2 batters who play in top who are 35+ and nearing 40if they lose form or fitness Ind will have hard time finding the replacements.

In case rohit fails Ind will go to Jaiswal and Kolhi fails it will have to bring Iyer 1 spot up, though Iyer has improved his game vs short balls but will a team risk him at no. 3, if yes then still they will have no one with exp or quality to play #4 meaning KL will move 1 place up and Ind will add some1 at #5.

 

Which is a bad scenario, having KL #4 not sure when and where he loses it.

Biggest issue is they are not playing any other competitive international cricket, and it's almost impossible to stay in form after not playing for almost a year. It just doesn't happen. 

tapandrun Grand Master

tapandrun

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16 minutes ago, New guy said:

Biggest issue is they are not playing any other competitive international cricket, and it's almost impossible to stay in form after not playing for almost a year. It just doesn't happen. 

It has been only once that a team has won the wc where there were 2 batters 35 yo or more, but that was Aus's super team with Hayden and Gillchrist were 35.

 

Sooda Mentor

Sooda

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2 hours ago, tapandrun said:

 

Right now both Kolhi and Rohit have Odi averages of 50+ and sr of 90+ in last 2-3 years. So on Merritt they  gets into the team. May be they have some cricket left in them.

 

The issues is Ind is taking 2 batters who play in top who are 35+ and nearing 40if they lose form or fitness Ind will have hard time finding the replacements.

In case rohit fails Ind will go to Jaiswal and Kolhi fails it will have to bring Iyer 1 spot up, though Iyer has improved his game vs short balls but will a team risk him at no. 3, if yes then still they will have no one with exp or quality to play #4 meaning KL will move 1 place up and Ind will add some1 at #5.

 

Which is a bad scenario, having KL #4 not sure when and where he loses it.

 

Yeah totally agree. I don't think Iyer will play at 3 tho, or I hope not at least 

Chaos Grand Master

Chaos

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39 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

Not a promising start..

What u talkin about. Its absolute dream start from them!

RajBan Experienced

RajBan

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7 hours ago, tapandrun said:

 

Right now both Kolhi and Rohit have Odi averages of 50+ and sr of 90+ in last 2-3 years. So on Merritt they  gets into the team. May be they have some cricket left in them.

 

The issues is Ind is taking 2 batters who play in top who are 35+ and nearing 40if they lose form or fitness Ind will have hard time finding the replacements.

In case rohit fails Ind will go to Jaiswal and Kolhi fails it will have to bring Iyer 1 spot up, though Iyer has improved his game vs short balls but will a team risk him at no. 3, if yes then still they will have no one with exp or quality to play #4 meaning KL will move 1 place up and Ind will add some1 at #5.

 

Which is a bad scenario, having KL #4 not sure when and where he loses it.

Just because Iyer is a terrible player, it does not justify retention of Rohit and Kohli, definitely not both of them. If we are playing all of Rohit, Kohli, Iyer and KL with Jaiswal the only player in reserves that means we have serious dearth of talent. None of those 4 should be anywhere close to one day squad as they have failed to create any impact or synergy in this format.

 

Along with Jaiswal there has to be atleast 4-6 more world class batters that should be now groomed in. 

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putrevus Grand Master

putrevus

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So again it proved in this match , if they don't score , other useless bozos in the team cannot do anything.

 

If they fail, India loses and that has been their story in their career.

 

They have been saddled with an ace bowler who always comes up short in big matches and useless supporting cast who never seem to raise their level.

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