Kohli and management have single handedly ruined team built by Dhoni

[Laaloo]

4 minutes ago, Pollack said:

BTW Team built by Dhoni.   

OP is having some very good ganja

[speedheat]

5 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Dhoni didn't build any team, he inherited one from Kumble! Dhoni is the biggest coward I've seen in the last 30 years, who'd hide behind his process' diarrhea and back stab the seniors, who made him, any chance he got.

Dhoni was the dumbest of the dumb, idiocy flaunted in each and every of his decision and I don't agree that he built a team, he built a zlich!! But let's give him a credit where its due, he atleast was good in backing those youngsters not coward like kohli who wants to stick with hasbeens.

[Trichromatic]

Dhoni didn't block or hamper development of players to the extent Kohli has done .

 

If Kohli was playing under his captaincy, his career would have been over by 2014 England series. Rest would have struggled to cement place.

 

Blind hate for Dhoni won't let people accept this.

 

Dhoni was bang average or poor captain, but he wasn't pulling down whole team all the time. He let all youngsters grow at their own pace and from there on Kohli has made sure that they go downhill only.

[Temujin Khaghan]

Both MSD and vk lacked proactiveness..

 

MSD is careless and expects that his test team will prepare themselves. He doesn't oversee the preparations.

 

Virat kohli is plain overconfident.

 

Both of them have an agenda to promote the players who are backed by the same corporate interests backing them.

 

I heard stories of Imran khan selected a teenage waqar after being impressed by his net bowling and fast tracked him into the national team. He personally mentored Wasim Akram during the same time.

 

 

[RAZPOR]

Dhoni's process theory costed us but you can't disagree that he was 100 times better when it came to selecting a team compared to Kohli,Kohli gets the team wrong almost every single day of his life it's like a vardaan.

Edited August 12, 2018 by RAZPOR

[Temujin Khaghan]

And finally why bcci stopped our I Dian players from going to county cricket and felt so anxious to prevent it that they actually scheduled an solo Afghan test.

 

Bcci couldn't bear kohli playing for a county team..

 

Now face the moojick d-holes..

[Temujin Khaghan]

Just now, RAZPOR said:

Dhoni's process theory coated us but you can't disagree that he was 100 times better when it came to selecting a team compared to Kohli,Kohli gets the team wrong almost every single day of his life it's like a vardaan.

MSD had so much agenda too...

He would keep selecting medium Pacers and not give enough oppurtunities to faster bowlers.

He is like an adamant mule who will keep making the same mistakes..

[R!TTER]

Just now, speedheat said:

Dhoni was the dumbest of the dumb, idiocy flaunted in each and every of his decision and I don't agree that he built a team, he built a zlich!! But let's give him a credit where its due, he atleast was good in backing those youngsters not coward like kohli who wants to stick with hasbeens.

You might but I won't call this cowardice - moronic, partial, reactionary etc. But not cowardly also I would say that he's a defensive captain IMO, not Dhoni level but a notch or two below.

[Gollum]

Dhoni was overall a rubbish package but Kohli has proved to be pathetic as far as grooming youngsters is concerned. His tactical shortcomings are compensated by his abilities to lift the energy of the team and lead by example, but his team selection makes no sense. Nor does his insecurity in terms of backing youngsters. What's with his love for has beens and buddies in all formats of the game? Playing Pappu/Karthik (2004 debut, life long failures, no hopers) ahead of a maverick like Pant, seriously? Did Dhoni for example in 2012 pick Venkatapathy Raju/Sarandeep Singh for tests ahead of young Ashwin citing experience? Did Dhoni go back to Kaif/Badrinath in place of young Kohli in 2011? That is exactly what Kohli is doing right now, more visible in shorter formats. 

 

I would prefer to see us go down with the kids than the foul smelling leeches we have at present. Kohli deserves all the flak he is getting atm, he is off to a much worse start than 2008-10 Dhoni  and Jharkhandi was the textbook example of how not to captain. Scary times ahead. We may well play better in the upcoming matches but that doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist. 

Edited August 12, 2018 by Gollum

[GolGappe]

Dhoni's downfall began with appointment of Duncan Fletcher as coach.

 

These tough tours will expose shortcomings of India's current "coaching" setup.

 

 

[RAZPOR]

Just now, Temujin Khaghan said:

MSD had so much agenda too...

He would keep selecting medium Pacers and not give enough oppurtunities to faster bowlers.

He is like an adamant mule who will keep making the same mistakes..

Kohli has outdone whatever msd did 100 times over ,and to make it worse he laughs like a mule after every embarrassing loss.Still remember the idiot ,moron laughing like a little girl with padosis after CT loss

[Lannister]

20 minutes ago, Forever Indian said:

Not a fan of Dhoni's test captaincy, but how is Kohli any better in handling fast bowlers? Aaron is out of the scene, Umesh is bowling worser than before, playing two spinners in rainy Lords and only two frontline seamers?

 

And not developing any youngster for last 4 years, that's just unpardonable!

But how many times they have taken 20 wickets under Kohli? That's what matters in Test cricket. Under Dhoni, they were just clueless and had no plan and were just going through the process. 

[Temujin Khaghan]

We hear stories of how Clive Lloyd or Steve Waugh prepared their teams with a great vision.

 

Don't know why ours don't.

[Temujin Khaghan]

Everyone writing essays...

 

So much frustration :/

[Switchblade]

7 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Dhoni didn't block or hamper development of players to the extent Kohli has done .

 

If Kohli was playing under his captaincy, his career would have been over by 2014 England series. Rest would have struggled to cement place.

  

Blind hate for Dhoni won't let people accept this.

 

Dhoni was bang average or poor captain, but he wasn't pulling down whole team all the time. He let all youngsters grow at their own pace and from there on Kohli has made sure that they go downhill only.

Agree with you here neither I am a fan of MS but the likes of Vijay, Pujara,Dhawan,Rahane, Ashwin,Aron,Yadav and unfortunately Jadeja were given chances under his captaincy.While they may be trash but at least they had a consistent run their positions were not changed every game.Unfortunately some due to their blind hatred for him will find everything wrong with Dhoni they should rather look at it from a balanced point of view than hating everything about him.

 

What kind of new players Kohli has introduced apart from Rahul or Kuldeep or Bumrah?Pre captaincy he was chest thumping showing all the aggression and arrogance it has all come crashing down to earth but he it would hurt his ego to admit his wrong doings.

 

[nitinbwj]

Had Bumrah and Bhuvi played, the results could have been better.

[Switchblade]

10 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Dhoni was overall a rubbish package but Kohli has proved to be pathetic as far as grooming youngsters is concerned. His tactical shortcomings are compensated by his abilities to lift the energy of the team and lead by example, but his team selection makes no sense. Nor does his insecurity in terms of backing youngsters. What's with his love for has beens and buddies in all formats of the game? Playing Pappu/Karthik (2004 debut, life long failures, no hopers) ahead of a maverick like Pant, seriously? Did Dhoni for example in 2012 pick Venkatapathy Raju/Sarandeep Singh for tests ahead of young Ashwin citing experience? Did Dhoni go back to Kaif/Badrinath in place of young Kohli in 2011? That is exactly what Kohli is doing right now, more visible in shorter formats. 

  

I would prefer to see us go down with the kids than the foul smelling leeches we have at present. Kohli deserves all the flak he is getting atm, he is off to a much worse start than 2008-10 Dhoni  and Jharkhandi was the textbook example of how not to captain. Scary times ahead. We may well play better in the upcoming matches but that doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist. 

top post hit the nail on the head unfortunately blind hatred of Dhoni who was a joke overseas won't allow some people to see these kind of selections made by Virat.

[SK_IH]

Kohli is basically a loser as captain, a guy with a history of heart breaking ends, he has won nothing significant in his captaincy career so far.A bad strategist on field and very ordinary at building a side or backing a player.His way out is selecting the likes of Yuvi,Dhoni and Raina,even when it's apparent they are on the decline

 

Nasser has kept pointing out through the series,he is "follow the ball" kind of captain.Secondly,he has been darling for some here for his supposed backing of fast bowlers ,however he has no tactical acumen to make use of those bowlers.

 

Dhoni made his own team starting with 2013 Ind-Aus tour but of course the haters won't recognize that and he could have easily gave up before that overseas cycle circa 2013-2015 but he ended his tenure with the end of that cycle.Otherwise Kohli ki kaptaani mei chaar chaand lage hote.

 

Only thing that he is an upgrade on Dhoni is not being adamant or stubborn.But he has far too many negatives attached to his captaincy.

 

Inspiring the team with the bat is obviously not helping either.

 

[Switchblade]

10 minutes ago, Lannister said:

But how many times they have taken 20 wickets under Kohli? That's what matters in Test cricket. Under Dhoni, they were just clueless and had no plan and were just going through the process. 

Bowling has been good and Kohli > Dhoni in 5 day format but at the end the selection blunders and tactical buffoonery are still costing us games.

[Rasgulla]

27 minutes ago, speedheat said:

he atleast was good in backing those youngsters not coward like kohli who wants to stick with hasbeens.

 

46 minutes ago, speedheat said:

dhoni was dumb with no eye for talents 

 comedy nights with BOT slowheat. 

Edited August 12, 2018 by Rasgulla