kosingh Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Lot's of "captain speak" by Virat here. But when 2 coaches (Jennings and Kumble) leave with similar opinions of Kohli his case is weakened. When it's convenient, what happens in the dressing room stays in the dressing room. But over the last few days, what happens in the dressing room hasn't exactly stayed in the dressing room. News of a "headmaster" like approach, of a "dressing-down" following the Champions Trophy defeat, of a coach talking to his players as if they were children, did not come from outside the dressing room. They were deliberate leaks from inside dressing room to highlight issues relating to Anil Kumble. And frankly, none of these issues made Kumble look as bad as the players might have hoped. Certainly not bad enough to warrant a Kumble ouster in the way it happened. If the players have more serious issues relating to Kumble than those highlighted here, they may want to speak. Because the "sanctity" Virat talks about has already been violated. ThePhenomenal1, mishra, Pollack and 2 others 5 Link to comment
sandeep Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Dressing room ke peechey kya hai, Dressing room ke peechey. Gandey politics ke neechey kya hai, gandey politics ke neechey. GoldenSun, CG and Adi_91 3 Link to comment
mishra Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rasgulla said: Rohit over pujara.. we all know how rohit wife is related to virat's manager LOL Only an idiot wouldn't accept he didn't fight with kumble over many things that were coming out now I will be surprised to see Kohli doing any "manmani" now on. CAC & BCCI will ensure that. Jumbo, Dravid, Dada, Tendu, Gavaskar, None of them are weak personalities. Kohli is walking on sword edge. Remember, if media is ro be believed, Kohli infact said he will accept Jumbo as coach despite everything, and only after that Jumbo resigned Edited June 22, 2017 by mishra ThePhenomenal1 and Rasgulla 2 Link to comment
maniac Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, sandeep said: Dressing room ke peechey kya hai, Dressing room ke peechey. Gandey politics ke neechey kya hai, gandey politics ke neechey. Reminds me of this meme Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Rasgulla said: Rohit over pujara.. we all know how rohit wife is related to virat's manager LOL Only an idiot wouldn't accept he didn't fight with kumble over many things that were coming out now Last I saw rohit not in test team and pujara a fixture . While pujara not in odi team and rohit is . Who would disagree with that ? express bowling 1 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 23 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said: Last I saw rohit not in test team and pujara a fixture . While pujara not in odi team and rohit is . Who would disagree with that ? He is not in the test team cause he was injured... Time to wake up Lannister and BeautifulGame 1 1 Link to comment
Lannister Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 7 hours ago, rahulrulezz said: Kudos to Kohli for not airing the dirty laundry in public.... Unlike the perfect gentleman Kumble The problem is one has lost his job while the other still enjoys it. Public has the right to know why he's been treated as such even though he's had a very good tenure. Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 5 hours ago, King Tendulkar said: Last I saw rohit not in test team and pujara a fixture . While pujara not in odi team and rohit is . Who would disagree with that ? Did you read Kohli interview after semifinal against Bangladesh? He pretty much said Rohit is being rested for WI b cause we need him for bigger assignments in Srilanka and SA. Oh Rohit got injured not dropped from the test Xl. You are in denial if you think Rohit won't be picked for Srl tour lol Link to comment
Khichdi Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Well done Kohli. Got the coach kicked out and now acting all saintly. And to try and even take a moral high ground is thug life at it's best. His fanboys are as matured as him. And what dressing room secrets did the coach spill at all? All he said was what he heard from the authorities "That the captain was not in favor of him continuing as a coach". This was not a secret, this was the coach's reason to leave. The reason Kohli is keeping his mouth shut is, if things were to come out in the open, it's him and his gang who would look bad. Not that they look good now, but life goes on. Had it not been Kumble, the gang and their media coterie would have started doing the character assassination of the coach already. GoldenSun, wanted_desi and Rightarmfast 3 Link to comment
Pollack Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 7 hours ago, rahulrulezz said: Kudos to Kohli for not airing the dirty laundry in public.... Unlike the perfect gentleman Kumble Lmao. "Headmaster", "Hard task master", one player getting dressing down after CT final: These inside info weren't leaked from dressing room? The sanctity of dressing room has already been broken.And it was only partly successful since Kumble is out but kohli gathered bad press. Kudos to kohli's maturity who deletes his old welcoming tweets of kumble. And most importantly he has no need to speak dressing room secrets now. He has already gathered a lot of bad press and kumble is gone. So there are apparently no benefits of speaking too much and in fact dent him more if he does otherwise. GoldenSun, Jimmy Cliff and CG 3 Link to comment
Tibarn Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 11 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: We have created a culture over the last 3-4 years that whatever happens in the change room, we’ve tried to maintain the sanctity of the change room throughout,” This part of Kohli's statement implies that Kumble was leaking locker room information. If that is true, he deserved to be axed. That compromises team unity. GoldenSun 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Tibarn said: This part of Kohli's statement implies that Kumble was leaking locker room information. If that is true, he deserved to be axed. That compromises team unity. Any locker room stories I am missing? beetle and GoldenSun 2 Link to comment
Tibarn Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, maniac said: Any locker room stories I am missing? That was one of the rumors of why Kumble and Kohli had issues. For Deccan chronicle reported this: http://www.deccanchronicle.com/sports/cricket/310517/did-anil-kumble-leak-private-whatsapp-conversation-with-virat-kohli-and-co-to-media.html Quote Mumbai: While neither Team India coach Anil Kumble nor skipper Virat Kohli have spoken on the reports suggesting tension between the two, there seems to be more drama to the story as it is now reported Kumble leaked one-on-one conversations with the Indian cricketers to media. "We've been told that there is a WhatsApp group created by Kumble of his few trusted media friends and few confidential talks between him and senior players were leaked through that," a report in DNA quoted an unnamed senior BCCI official as saying. If we believe these leaks that Kumble wanted to bat first in the final, why shouldn't we believe this stuff that Kumble leaked Whatsapp messages and one-on-one messages to the media? Link to comment
maniac Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Tibarn said: That was one of the rumors of why Kumble and Kohli had issues. For Deccan chronicle reported this: http://www.deccanchronicle.com/sports/cricket/310517/did-anil-kumble-leak-private-whatsapp-conversation-with-virat-kohli-and-co-to-media.html If we believe these leaks that Kumble wanted to bat first in the final, why shouldn't we believe this stuff that Kumble leaked Whatsapp messages and one-on-one messages to the media? Fair enough....let us say Kumble is leaking these reports....that should not even be a concern given the news that Kohli just went to the toss and made his own decision over riding the coach. isnt that the bigger problem than some news leaks. obviously both are speculation at this point. and yes if news keeps coming out and affects his the team performance in the next few months than definitely Kumble will look petty. Link to comment
Tibarn Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, maniac said: Fair enough....let us say Kumble is leaking these reports....that should not even be a concern given the news that Kohli just went to the toss and made his own decision over riding the coach. isnt that the bigger problem than some news leaks. obviously both are speculation at this point. and yes if news keeps coming out and affects his the team performance in the next few months than definitely Kumble will look petty. Depends on who has final say in the locker room. This cricinfo article that cites an anonymous BCCI official implies that the captain is supposed to have the final say http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/story/1105125.html Quote Kumble has never been shy of expressing his opinion, but the official said the last word in the dressing room has always belonged to the captain. Kumble, according to the official, was trying to "overstep" and that caused problems. "In the cricket construct it is the captain who takes the credit and the flak. Everybody else plays the supporting role. But Kumble wanted due credit." If the captain traditionally has the final say, then Kohli was following our team's culture, and Kumble was upset he wasn't getting his way. Remember, fans used to criticize Dhoni for selection decisions as he had final say. If Kohli is captain, he should realistically expect the same role. Link to comment
nospam Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tibarn said: That was one of the rumors of why Kumble and Kohli had issues. For Deccan chronicle reported this: http://www.deccanchronicle.com/sports/cricket/310517/did-anil-kumble-leak-private-whatsapp-conversation-with-virat-kohli-and-co-to-media.html If we believe these leaks that Kumble wanted to bat first in the final, why shouldn't we believe this stuff that Kumble leaked Whatsapp messages and one-on-one messages to the media? If Kumble was leaking information to the media to put pressure on Kohli, wouldn't Kohli step down instead of Kumble? Is Kumble so dim-witted that after leaking all the bad things in the press, he is the one resigning??? Edited June 23, 2017 by nospam Link to comment
mishra Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 32 minutes ago, nospam said: If Kumble was leaking information to the media to put pressure on Kohli, wouldn't Kohli step down instead of Kumble? Is Kumble so dim-witted that after leaking all the bad things in the press, he is the one resigning??? Yes, Kumble leaked that he treated them as school kids or he lambasted all players post Pakistan loss or 9 off 11 were unhappy with Kumble. So called Dressing room "sanctity" is so phony . rkt.india, nospam, GoldenSun and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Pollack Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Today lots of anti kumble article with some more dressing room sanctity being maintained. Wonder who is leaking it now if kumble was accused of leaking before. Tide is against Kumble in media again. Kohli fans are delusional if they believe in fake words of kohli in press conferences. Believe its both kumble and players being responsible for the mess. But this superstar culture is getting out of hands. Players need to take disagreement with maturity. They cannot get Coaches and commentators sacked. Heck, even a new kid like Bumrah is slowly learning the traits from these superstars. He cannot take a freaking joke. The current bunch is cowards. They cannot take any criticism. They just don't want any criticism. GoldenSun, JaFanatic, cricbuz and 1 other 4 Link to comment
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