Has this team already started disintegrating?

[Trichromatic]

Things aren't looking under control, captain is getting frustrated and looking clueless, players are looking down and everything is clumsy and chaotic.

 

Bad signs for upcoming test series. Need to buckle up before it is too late to organize all pieces needed for winning.

 

LOI was suppose to be confidence booster and this is the time Indian team need someone to motivate them in the field.

 

Role of Shastri will be very crucial here. He can't contribute much, but this is essentially his department. 

[SandeepMotta]

Better if it happens before the world cup rather than at the world cup. I things dont change we are likey to have the oldest squad at the world cup.

[rkt.india]

The reason I consider bilateral ODIs overseas far more challenging than ODI world tournaments.  Beating home team in a series is never easy.  While in world tournaments, we might not even play a single game against the home team. we  played one game against the home team in 2015 and that was the only game we lost in that WC.

[Nikhil_cric]

23 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Things aren't looking under control, captain is getting frustrated and looking clueless, players are looking down and everything is clumsy and chaotic.

 

Bad signs for upcoming test series. Need to buckle up before it is too late to organize all pieces needed for winning.

 

LOI was suppose to be confidence booster and this is the time Indian team need someone to motivate them in the field.

 

Role of Shastri will be very crucial here. He can't contribute much, but this is essentially his department. 

A humiliation is coming up in tests as well. We are just not producing batsmen required to score runs everywhere. 

[jalebi_bhai]

As disappointing as it is to lose....this disintegration is needed. Team needed to be rebuilt 3 years back. It's still not too late.

 

Jacksh*t will happen though. Kohli, Shastri and Dhoni are too arrogant for their own good. Kohli doesn't have the testicular fortitude to make the changes needed. 

[Trichromatic]

11 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

A humiliation is coming up in tests as well. We are just not producing batsmen required to score runs everywhere. 

Shocking how batting has gone down drain in last 4-5 years. 

 

Even in tests everyone except Kohli is struggling.

[Nikhil_cric]

Just now, Trichromatic said:

Shocking how batting has gone down drain in last 4-5 years. 

 

Even in tests everyone except Kohli is struggling.

Yep. We have settled for mediocrity with the bat these days.

[The Dark Horse]

This ODI series loss is purely on Kohli. Select the friggin team right for once in overseas tours ffs. Raina in all three ODIs is preposterous, not to mention Dhoni..If we select the right team and then lose that’s a different story but this is getting too irritating and annoying.

[cric_fan]

It could just be that Eng have outplayed them?

[Straight Drive]

When captain does not allows team to settle and shows such bias there is only one way team will go in longer period of time. His influence is very negative. The aggression etc is just fake. He does not likes competition at all, even from his own team mates like Rahul, Kuldeep. 

 

But it's so easy to bluff all fans. Pick some fast bowlers, irrespective of their performance and everyone goes gaga. Nobody cares he give 3 overs out of powerplay in T20 to spinners and gives pacers a back seat. Nobody cares he has only one slip for pacer in England even in first two overs. It's so easy to brainwash fans and get brownie points.  Great batsman but not worth captaincy imo atleast. Fultoo dramebaaz and knows which strings to pull to keep fans happy.

Edited July 17, 2018 by Straight Drive

[Shunya]

2-1 in T20s

1-2 in ODIs

 

Thats decent result against a no.1 side in their home. Test series will be altogether a different beast though. This time everyone is used to the conditions and have had plenty of practice. So no excuses but to show up good. 

[kosingh]

1 minute ago, Shunya said:

2-1 in T20s

1-2 in ODIs

 

Thats decent result against a no.1 side in their home. Test series will be altogether a different beast though. This time everyone is used to the conditions and have had plenty of practice. So no excuses but to show up good. 

It's even more impressive when you consider India's tactics

[raki05]

39 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

The reason I consider bilateral ODIs overseas far more challenging than ODI world tournaments.  Beating home team in a series is never easy.  While in world tournaments, we might not even play a single game against the home team. we  played one game against the home team in 2015 and that was the only game we lost in that WC.

But has the selection been right from the start and bumrah would have been there this team has potential to beat this English side.

[raki05]

20 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said:

This ODI series loss is purely on Kohli. Select the friggin team right for once in overseas tours ffs. Raina in all three ODIs is preposterous, not to mention Dhoni..If we select the right team and then lose that’s a different story but this is getting too irritating and annoying.

Just to bowl 3-4 expensive overs. This is the worst 11 we have in long time. Not because there is scarcity of good player but because of brain * of kohli. What a looser he is, he needs to be relieved from captaincy with immediate effect.

[Number]

5 minutes ago, Shunya said:

2-1 in T20s

1-2 in ODIs

 

Thats decent result against a no.1 side in their home. Test series will be altogether a different beast though. This time everyone is used to the conditions and have had plenty of practice. So no excuses but to show up good. 

3 matches we won out of 6, there was one thing in common.

A certain player didn't get a chance to bat.

May be team can get a clue from that what needs to be done to win matches.

[raki05]

6 minutes ago, Shunya said:

2-1 in T20s

1-2 in ODIs

 

Thats decent result against a no.1 side in their home. Test series will be altogether a different beast though. This time everyone is used to the conditions and have had plenty of practice. So no excuses but to show up good. 

What are you smoking dude...what a looser thinking.

[Shunya]

17 minutes ago, kosingh said:

It's even more impressive when you consider India's tactics

Nothing impressive but the tactics have been same since last couple of years I think when we won 9 odd series on the trott.

[Shunya]

13 minutes ago, Number said:

3 matches we won out of 6, there was one thing in common.

A certain player didn't get a chance to bat.

May be team can get a clue from that what needs to be done to win matches.

Yea sure why not. Only if it was always so easy to beat good sides with only top 3 scoring.

[Shunya]

13 minutes ago, raki05 said:

What are you smoking dude...what a looser thinking.

tereko apna rona hai toh rota reh...

But the fact remains, before the tour started everyone knew this England LOI side would beat the s.hit out of us... They were clearly good but we did very well to win those 3 games whether you like it or not. Its not a piece of cake to beat this English side at their home.

Remember last time England toured India, we beat them comprehensively in Tests, Odis, T20s all of them...

[Bigg Brother]

Dhoni chamchas giving England respect citing,"England is gun team,There is no humiliation,blah blah" because they worship certain player who didn't perform in any single match.

 

These very same people will come hard at test team next month because Dhoni is not part of the test team.

Edited July 17, 2018 by Bigg Brother